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Tangle
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Message 122 of 405 (743317)
11-29-2014 3:04 PM
Reply to: Message 121 by Faith
11-29-2014 2:33 PM


Re: Arminian errors
Faith writes:
The twin towers attack was absolutely God's judgment.
No it wasn't.
Now what?
Edited by Tangle, : No reason given.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Message 202 of 405 (743532)
12-02-2014 3:11 AM
Reply to: Message 197 by Faith
12-01-2014 9:48 PM


Faith writes:
To think that such an educated man as Calvin would be subjected to such ignorance rather takes the breath away.
Don't worry about it Faith, you're perfectly capable of hand waving and rationalising all this stuff away and parking it all somewhere out of sight.
If it's any help, Calvin had no more knowledge of god that you or I did - just perhaps a bit more imagination.

Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 392 of 405 (825109)
12-08-2017 8:54 AM
Reply to: Message 390 by Phat
12-08-2017 8:46 AM


Re: The Whims Of God
Phat writes:
I'm still not sure what I believe among these competing options.
It doesn't matter, both are inventions with no rational way of choosing between them.
And from my point of view, both silly made up nonsense.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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Tangle
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Message 397 of 405 (825118)
12-08-2017 9:30 AM
Reply to: Message 393 by Phat
12-08-2017 9:01 AM


Re: The Whims Of God
Phat writes:
Yes, but your point of view has rejected all forms of unevidenced belief.
Well no, not exactly. I'm not a machine I have all human emotions within their required tolerances. So in almost all respects I'm as irrational as you, subject to the same biases and feelings. I'm just more aware of them that's all.
You have no fear betting on science, but science can only work with concepts that have presentable evidence. Science itself cant provide any comfort of itself being an answer.
I'm not betting anything on science, I'm just living a life. I don't need comforts and don't even know what that means. Science is not a substitute belief in something, it's just a useful tool.
And what it all boils down to is faith in humanity. I'm not convinced humanity will ever save itself.
Save itself from what? We are what we are, we have this life to live, what the generations ahead of us do is of no consequence to us - though of course we wish them well. I don't understand your whole mindset, you appear to have fabricated a concern, then invented a belief system to give comfort to it. Just rid yourself of the concern.

Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. I am Mancunian. I am Brum. I am London.I am Finland. Soy Barcelona
"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

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