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Phat Member Posts: 18310 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
This is an interesting article! Scientists Discover That Drunk Birds Sing Like Drunks
The scientists used zebra finches. The finches long have been used as a model to study human vocal learning, or how people learn to communicate using language...The researcher was a scientist,Christopher Olson and his colleagues at Oregon Health and Science University .
NPR writes: Listen to the audio, and you'll hear that the finches' song gets a bit quieter and just a little slurred, or as Olson puts it, "a bit less organized in their sound production" like a roommate calling from a bar to get a ride home. In the future, Olson wants to find out whether alcohol affects not just how birds sing but how they learn new songs like a roommate partying so late he's still drunk in class the next morning. That seems true. Around where I live, the birds sing pretty much the same songs...or patterns, anyway. Is It Science? Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given.
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AdminPhat Inactive Member |
I put this in Is It Science by mistake, thus moved it back over here for another admin to critique and hopefully promote.
Edited by AdminPhat, : No reason given. Edited by AdminPhat, : clarification
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Admin Director Posts: 13018 From: EvC Forum Joined: Member Rating: 1.9 |
Unless there's something about this where opinions would break down along lines related to the creation/evolution debate, this seems better suited for Coffee House, or if there's some link to creation/evolution then it could go in Creation/Evolution In The News.
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AdminPhat Inactive Member |
Thread copied here from the Drunk Birds thread in the Proposed New Topics forum.
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Jon Inactive Member |
I don't understand the topic.
What is the relevance to human language abilities and human language learning? I would expect alcohol consumption to impair most of what the birds do regardless of how similar or dissimilar it is to what humans do. I also don't see how alcohol impairing two functions, one in a bid and one in a human, is evidence that these functions are in any way similar or analogous — it is just evidence that both functions are susceptible to the effects of alcohol, but this seems true for most functions for most creatures. In other words: animals can get drunk too. So what? I don't think it tells us much of anything. ABE: HAPPY NEW YEAR! Edited by Jon, : Love your enemies!
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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I would expect alcohol consumption to impair What do you mean impair? I know I used to sing better, meet prettier girls, and fight better after a single guzzle of 'Early Times'. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I think he meant 'empower' ... but his typing was slurred ...
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1526 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
I sometimes allow my African grey parrot a sip or two or three of beer.
He really likes a good lager! "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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jar Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
When I lived on Hilton Head Island we had a large Pyracantha in the entrance and when the berries ripened and fell the Cedar Waxwings would gorge themselves and get so drunk they could barely fly.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
does he do the lager stagger?
(is that a lager day stint?) Edited by RAZD, : ...by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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we had a large cherry tree in MI and not just the Cedar Waxwings, but squirrels would get so drunk they couldn't stay on top of the branches
And monkeys have learned to brew their own ... by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1526 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
All I know is every time I pop a brew that bird carries on until I give him
some!!! It is hilarious. "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
African grey parrots are awesome!
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