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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
We need God because we are either unable or unwilling to lay aside our own wants and desires enough to solve the major problems of the world. And you have evidence of some God that makes people able and willing to lay aside their own wants and desires enough to solve the major problems of the world?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Does you answer have anything to do with the question?
Do you have evidence of some God that makes people able and willing to lay aside their own wants and desires enough to solve the major problems of the world? If humans will decide to change once things get so bad that they have no choice is there any need of a God?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Would you settle for a benign dictator that cure diabetes, guarantees a comfortable retirement, passes a law that new folk can't take YOUR job, provides four weeks of cost free vacation annually, puts on arousing feel good get togethers and parties?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Thus I would argue that for me it is important to have confidence and trust that God is interactive and approachable. Otherwise what good is He? Do you see what is reveled in that paragraph? You define your god in terms of what benefit that god would provide to YOU.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
You have never shown me how "communion" is possible.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How would that have anything to do with communion with god?
Did you just say "Based on the description of the character of Jesus, in the Bible, can you imagine how He might respond to a given everyday situation that we humans face now?" Isn't that an example of me "communion" with me?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
How?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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so to you, truth is relative and not absolute. I understand. Truth is one of those words that should only be used in very limited circumstances and never used without also including qualifications or out of context.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Besides...how do we know God is not involved in natural consequences? The topic, the topic. "Do We NEED God?" No god is needed to explain natural consequences.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: Sometimes, jar...you don't make sense. To a believer, the very idea of logic, reason, and reality insist upon communion with God. The Holy Spirit inspires us. Its not just air that we inhale. But Phat, I am a believer. The issue is unrelated to anyone's beliefs, it is (as it was framed by the member that started the thread) "Do we need God?" The honest answer is that so far there is absolutely no evidence that any GOD, God or god is needed. And what exactly do we inhale other than air? How does any Holy Spirit inspire anyone?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat, what you believe has nothing to do with reality.
Phat writes: I believe that life itself is made possible by God and through God. But what does that even mean? You may believe that is true but there are far more folk living that believe that life is not made possible through God or by God. You claim we inhale SPIRIT, but what the hell does that even mean? Where is the evidence? What flavors does SPIRIT come in? How many calories per serving? It's fine for you to claim that "You NEED God" but that is not the topic. Do you have any evidence that "We NEED God?"Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Phat writes: A human cannot simply put themselves "in Gods place" and understand the responsibilities of the Deity as defined by fallible humans. That's not what God said Phat. In fact that is exactly opposite of what God said.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Do we need Allah?
Do we need Coyote? Do we need Thor? Do we need Athena? Do we need Venus? Do we need Ra? Do we need Ganesha? Do we need God?
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
That's not what people are taught by religions about their God is it? That depends on who is doing the teaching. There are some really bad teachers out there particularly when it comes to stuff like religion.
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Tangle writes: But god being everywhere and able to do anything is universally taught by Christianity. It's fundamental. Anything less is this very modern idea of a 'lessor god' which is a necessary reaction by intelligent believers to scientific discovery. It just demonstrates the elasticity of belief. Ironically, it evolves. But that is simply not correct. If you read the Bible stories themselves you find that the Gods depicted in those stories are not everywhere and able to do anything. What you claim is universally taught by Christianity is simply not the case.
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