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Topic: Is the Bible the inerrant word of God? Or is it the words of men?
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1554 of 2241 (747214)
01-13-2015 11:08 AM
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Reply to: Message 1551 by Faith
01-13-2015 10:39 AM
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Re: The sacrifice of Isaac shows the divine inspiration of scripture
He Himself claims that He is the subject of all the OT messianic prophecies.
Can you show actual writings by him that say this? Or some first person contemporary sources that quote him saying this. Or do you just have tradition?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 1551 by Faith, posted 01-13-2015 10:39 AM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 1555 by Faith, posted 01-13-2015 12:09 PM | | Theodoric has replied |
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1556 of 2241 (747224)
01-13-2015 12:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 1555 by Faith
01-13-2015 12:09 PM
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Re: The sacrifice of Isaac shows the divine inspiration of scripture
Just saying no would have been much easier
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 1555 by Faith, posted 01-13-2015 12:09 PM | | Faith has replied |
| Replies to this message: | | | Message 1558 by Faith, posted 01-13-2015 12:37 PM | | Theodoric has replied |
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1560 of 2241 (747230)
01-13-2015 1:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 1558 by Faith
01-13-2015 12:37 PM
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Re: The sacrifice of Isaac shows the divine inspiration of scripture
But you have nothing to show who was the author of John, or when it was written. If it was a John, John who?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 1558 by Faith, posted 01-13-2015 12:37 PM | | Faith has replied |
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1590 of 2241 (747301)
01-13-2015 8:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 1588 by Faith
01-13-2015 7:33 PM
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How very christian of you. I can not understand the hate toward people that disagree with you. You must be very insecure in your beliefs and your self. You are worthy of pity, nothing more.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1598 of 2241 (747345)
01-14-2015 3:15 PM
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Reply to: Message 1593 by Faith
01-14-2015 12:39 PM
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Re: A revised version of the evidence given in [msg=1502]
Not evidence. Just wild ass assertions and interpretations.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 1593 by Faith, posted 01-14-2015 12:39 PM | | Faith has not replied |
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1745 of 2241 (747891)
01-20-2015 3:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 1726 by Phat
01-20-2015 10:55 AM
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Re: Peculiar People
Christianity is unique in that God found us---we did not have to go seeking Him.
Hubris much? You do realize most religions would claim the same thing.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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| Replies to this message: | | | Message 1747 by Faith, posted 01-20-2015 3:18 PM | | Theodoric has not replied |
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1832 of 2241 (748182)
01-23-2015 11:29 AM
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Reply to: Message 1824 by Faith
01-23-2015 10:15 AM
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Re: By Their Fruits
So lets see if I have this correct. Calvinism is following some of the preaching of Calvin. HyperCalvinism is following all of the preaching of Calvin. Therefore Calvin was not following biblical teaching. Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1833 of 2241 (748183)
01-23-2015 11:34 AM
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Reply to: Message 1831 by Faith
01-23-2015 11:20 AM
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Re: King Josiah's restoration of Israel to proper worship of their God
Paul met Jesus
On the road to Damascus? Doesn't really count since it was a supposed vision. Paul never met a physical person Jesus Christ that did the things imagined in the Gospels.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 1868 of 2241 (748309)
01-24-2015 2:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 1865 by Faith
01-24-2015 12:43 PM
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Re: The blind bias of modern man is all you have, not evidence
If Paul changed the story in each telling, then by virtue of the definition of inerrant, then it would not be inerrant.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 1865 by Faith, posted 01-24-2015 12:43 PM | | Faith has not replied |
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 2039 of 2241 (748746)
01-28-2015 11:32 PM
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Reply to: Message 2037 by jar
01-28-2015 4:39 PM
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Re: Documentary hypothesis
Richard Carrier also addresses a lot of issues.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 2069 of 2241 (748814)
01-29-2015 4:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 2062 by Golffly
01-29-2015 1:43 PM
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Re: learning basics
I am also a product of a Christian upbringing. Even had aspirations of being a priest.
I end up far removed from that.
I could have written that. My motivation to become a priest was mainly academic. I saw it as a way to spend a life of studying and learning. I couldn't drink the kool-aid and am now, I am not only an atheist but I am quite anti-religious too. The evils in name of religion are too many to overlook.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 2083 of 2241 (748850)
01-30-2015 8:37 AM
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Reply to: Message 2081 by PaulK
01-30-2015 8:10 AM
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Re: Mark: identity and geography
Also, even if Mark wrote it, who is this Mark? We have no biographical, or historical evidence of who he was. Why should we trust writings of someone, who for all intents and purposes is anonymous?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 2162 of 2241 (749181)
02-02-2015 3:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 2161 by Faith
02-02-2015 3:35 PM
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Re: An irreconcilable clash of world views
You would think that god guy would be better at explaining things and writing things clearly. According to what you are saying, what is written is a real clusterfuck. Is English really that hard? Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
| This message is a reply to: | | | Message 2161 by Faith, posted 02-02-2015 3:35 PM | | Faith has not replied |
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