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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Well, assuming that we ever restore a fairer taxation on the rich here in the USA, we could offer a carrot rather than stick by giving voters a $50 refund on their taxes. Most of these people who don't vote probably fall into a general group of people who just want to be left alone and not have the "government" mess with them. This is similar to the vaccination thread, in a certain way. These non-voters are basically along for the ride on the backs of the voters.
Perhaps voting in the primaries is more important, so maybe $30 there, then $20 for the nationals. Or some amounts that would work best. It is true that proving you voted on your tax form without revealing how you voted is problematical. Your social security number is never on the ballot. Another thing - make all balloting done by mail-in sent to all registered voters and give them 2 weeks to mail it in. Each mail-in ballot would have a random serial number that appears on the carbon copy as well. On the website for your ward you could anonymously look up your serial number and see how it was counted. Homeless voters could go to someone who could get them a ballot after careful checks to make sure they were not illegals or had already voted. The whole concept of voting will always have its flaws with the evils of shrewd expensive advertising propaganda. But that is what the USA is founded on, so we have to accept it.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
President Obama Just Announced an Election Change That Would Transform the Face of American Politics
That was an opinion, not an announcement. So who's the doofus? They have mandatory voting in Australia, and it works quite well. I don't expect it to happen in the USA. [Just listening to a radio interview. Someone said about mandatory voting -- "you could go into the voting booth and write-in Big Bird". Well sure. "Mandatory voting" is really only "mandatory showing up at the voting center on election day". You could still deliberately spoil your ballot.]Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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They have mandatory voting in Australia, and it works quite well. What's the penalty for not voting?
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5 |
A relatively small fine.
Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Did Obama "Suggest Mandatory Voting?" A: No. - Little Green Footballs. :
quote: The link in the above quote is:Obama: Maybe it's time for mandatory voting | CNN Politics The CNN supplied video: Foam on, Coyote. MooseProfessor, geology, Whatsamatta U Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2133 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Foam on, Coyote. Why did he bring the subject up? He does not have the power as the president to mandate it. Was it a trial balloon? Was it to distract attention from something else?Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Was it a trial balloon? Was it to distract attention from something else? Is he a hitler? We're just asking questions.
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2133 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
Is he a hitler? We're just asking questions. A Hitler? You're being a f****** troll.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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Minnemooseus Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: Member Rating: 10.0
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Why did he bring the subject up? I don't know the larger context of the speech, but I think he wished to promote voter turnout. And doing such is indeed to be to the Democrats benefit. The Democratic party has the problem of getting their base to go to the polls and vote. And the Republicans are making efforts to further suppress this turnout. why shouldn't he bring it up? Moose
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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Why did he bring the subject up?
Did it ever occur to you that maybe he has an opinion, and maybe he likes to mention it -- just like all of the posters at evcforum.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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subbie Member (Idle past 1282 days) Posts: 3509 Joined:
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Coyote writes: Why did he bring the subject up? He does not have the power as the president to mandate it. Was it a trial balloon? Was it to distract attention from something else? Is this a tacit acknowledgement that you were wrong and that Obama didn't actually announce an election change as you alleged?Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8557 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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If Charleston and Savannah both get the presidential nuke then does that mean they would be exempt from the Presidential Edict on mandatory voting? I mean the voters would be dead and neither of these places are even close to Chicago. Can someone clarify for me, please?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Well, it's just a question. Like "Was it to distract attention from something else?" and "was that a terrorist fist jab?" and "why hasnt he come round to my house to show me his birth certificate in person, does he have something to hide?"
Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Self-awareness not a strong suit?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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saab93f Member (Idle past 1422 days) Posts: 265 From: Finland Joined: |
How about a devout xian who wishes that gays were exterminated with a shot in the head or another convenient method. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Matt McLaughlin.
California can’t kill its "Kill the Gays" ballot measure.
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