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Where's that "jeer" button when I need it?

Damn. I need that "jeer" button again.

I am SO impressed with the substantive and relevant comments to the information about Obama I'm just overwhelmed with admiration.

Completely and utter false! Before you tell us what the Constitution requires, shouldn't you take a little time to read it first? Is it an article of faith with you that you must be ignorant of everything you choose to pontificate on?Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as president of the United States (my emphasis added):

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No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

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While the Constitution does not specify exactly how "a natural born Citizen" is defined, subsequent law, including the Naturalization Act of 1790, has. A 2011 Congressional Research Service report stated that:

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The weight of legal and historical authority indicates that the term "natural born" citizen would mean a person who is entitled to U.S. citizenship "by birth" or "at birth," either by being born "in" the United States and under its jurisdiction, even those born to alien parents; by being born abroad to U.S. citizen-parents; or by being born in other situations meeting legal requirements for U.S. citizenship "at birth."

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His mother was a citizen, so he is a "natural born Citizen" as required, regardless of the fact that he was also born in the USA (a former co-worker and native Hawaiian could never understand the main-land idiots who didn't realize that Hawaii is in the USA).Why do you still believe that ignorance works? It doesn't!

Clearly he was born in Kenya. If that doesn't disqualify him then why has everyone gone to so much trouble to pretend he was born in Hawaii instead?

if you don't kick puppies why do you go through so much trouble in denying it?And again, are you opposed to Ted Cruz's run for the republican nomination?

I'd like to believe dwise is right and that Obama WAS born in Kenya, for which there is a ton of evidence, but that his mother's being an American citizen makes him one too. That way the Constitution isn't violated, which was the disturbing thing about all this.But that raises the question why this wasn't recognized a long time ago, and also why nobody here seems to care whether the Constitution was violated or not.

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Of course. The Constitution requires that a President be born in the USA and they thought there was good reason to believe that Obama was born in Kenya.

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Ok, let's assume that you are right, that he was born in Kenya.Why does this disqualify him from becoming the president? Or do you also dispute his mother was his real mother?

Why do you not care that Cruz's run is in violation of the constitution?

Faith, your 1st video has one instance where the term "son" translated means a descendent, not born there. It is useless. 0-1Your 2nd video is only about the acquaintance of Barack with a former Weatherman who was working in the poor sections of town and naturally would meet Obama, who had the same agenda - helping the poor. Thanking people who helped him get an education, stating that he was going to be POTUS - migod, Faith - you twist this into a supporter of a former terrorist? WOW. 0-23rd, "Barack was born (in) the country." This is a mistranslation. It should read "I was born OF this country" - i.e. - he is a direct descendent of this family, just like a white european descendent in America would say they are Irish or Italian. The birthing line is also hearsay. 0-34th: Brietbart is one of the biggest liars for the Crazy Right Wing - a discredited source. They are repeatedly guilty of quote-mining and other nefarious tricks to fool you. The incredulity of the retraction appears so stupid, and then you fall for it? Wow - this is so sophomoric high school. I'm sorry you got taken in by this. 0-45th or so: Why do the archives of the Hawaiian news papers mention that he was born there in 1961? What? are those old newspapers in on this too? way back on August 4th, 1961 - were they all lying way back then? "oh, I know- we'll go along with this American woman and agree to lie about his birth because he will grow up to be POTUS." What unmitigated shit Birthers have to hold in their tiny heads. 0-5I worry that you are a Birther. Instead you should be adding to your ranting against Obama because he really annoys you with his policies and accomplishments.So - are you going to vote for Ted Cruz? Why is it that he is eligible? Hmmm. Let's see his "long form". GO Donald Trump!So, your "evidence" is NOTHING but innuendo, dangerous background music, hearsay, lies and ignorant translations...inadmissible evidence. Really very poor "evidence".Sorry - I see that others have also pointed these things out.

Faith Asks: Because the racist Right Wing Mediots avoided this. You do understand that the Right Wing is ferociously RACIST, don't you?

She was just demonstrating that Christian love.

Of course I'm right on this. I quoted the Constitution to you. And what constitutes a "natural born citizen." I was presenting the clear and plain facts, something that you were completely avoiding. You can read up on it yourself at Natural-born-citizen clause, but we all know that you are going to cling desperately to your ignorance for as long as you can.There are two Latin terms that describe how one derives ones citizenship. I forget what they are exactly, since that lesson was taught nearly half a century ago, but loosely translated they are something like "Law of Blood" and "Law of Soil". "Law of Soil" refers to where you were born. You are a natural citizen of the USA if you are born here, even if both your parents are non-citizens. "Law of Blood" refers to your parents. Regardless of where you are born, if one of your parents was a US citizen at the time of your birth, then so are you. There are many cases in which a person holds dual citizenship. For example, when my ex-wife was born, her mother was still a Mexican citizen so she could have claimed dual US/Mexican citizenship. A friend in college had triple citizenship because his father was American, his mother was British, and he was born in India. According to my understanding which might not be correct, at some point, such as at age 18 or 21, you must choose one and renounce the others. Though that doesn't explain why it was just within the past few years that Ted Cruz finally renounced his Canadian citizenship ... on 14 May 2014, to be exact, less than a year ago. Like I said, I'm a bit hazy on that part.Either one, "Law of Blood" or "Law of Soil", will make you a natural born citizen, but there's nothing to keep both from being in effect. For example, both my parents were natural born US citizens and I was born in the USA, so both apply to me. For that matter, both apply to the vast majority of US citizens. So then if "Law of Blood" makes Obama a natural born US citizen, why would that have to mean that "Law of Soil" didn't apply. In his case, as in the case of most US citizens, both rules do indeed apply since he was born in Hawaii as well as having been born to a US citizen. As we've known all along. Yes, he could also claim a foreign citizenship through his Kenyan father, no different from many other US citizens with dual or even triple citizenships. So what's the problem?If you are still upset about Obama's non-citizen father, what about Ted Cruz? His mother was American and his father was Cuban. An American mother and a non-American father, just like Obama. But unlike Obama, Ted Cruz wasn't born in the USA, but rather in a foreign country, in Canada. And for decades Ted Cruz held dual citizenship (or was that triple, given that his father was Cuban?), such that it was less than a year ago that he finally renounced his Canadian citizenship.You've got birther problems with Obama? What about Ted Cruz? Why do you persist in avoiding voicing your birther problems with Ted Cruz? They should be far stronger than your problems with Obama, since Ted Cruz is violating far more of what you are complaining about with Obama. Why so quiet all of a sudden, Faith? It was recognized a long time ago, practically from the start. It's the birthers who refuse to accept the facts. They're even more bat-shit crazy than creationists are! And they hate reality even more than creationists do ... OK, maybe not more. But you can't talk with those people!

You people thrive on lies and slander, there's really no point in trying to answer you. I haven't given this whole thing any thought in years but that doesn't matter, to you I'm persisting in voicing problems with Ted Cruz. This is the first time I've heard anything about Ted Cruz but nothing stops you from making me into a liar. Obvioualy the liars are those who deny on flimsy Jesuitical reasoning that Obama was born in Kenya. You'll go back and forth between claiming that's perfectly all right and that it's not true, he was really born in Hawaii. So is it all right or is it not true? You know what, I long since stopped caring. I went and found some evidence that he was born in Kenya. It's perfectly good evidence but I could not care less. People who care about truth are called racists and liars and everything is so corrupt there's no point in saying anything more about it. I'm used to being lied about at EvC so go ahead, pile it on.

Clearly he was born in the HI. Again you ahve no evidence to the contrary.
No one went through any trouble to show he was born in HI.Here is the original birth announcement from 1961.
https://file.wikileaks.org/...t-from-honolulu-advertiser.pdf
Oh and there are actual birth certificates and birth records.Why do I both trying to convince against lunacy?