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Author Topic:   If evolution is true, where did flying creatures come from?
Dr Adequate
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Message 173 of 225 (757665)
05-11-2015 10:52 PM
Reply to: Message 162 by Faith
05-11-2015 6:09 PM


Re: Evolution of What3ever
It's a position I take for the sake of argument since the source of genetic diversity isn't important for most of this discussion ...
Well it is kind of important since it wrecks your entire argument. If there's a constant source of genetic diversity, then there is a constant supply of raw material for selection, evolution need never stop, and even if your fantasies about species formation were perfectly accurate, new species would not in the long run lose diversity. Or to put it another way, if there's a constant source of genetic diversity then we'd be living in the real world and would observe the things that we actually do observe.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 177 of 225 (757669)
05-12-2015 12:42 AM
Reply to: Message 175 by Faith
05-12-2015 12:08 AM


Re: Evolution of What3ever
You can have all the genetic diversity you want and still wherever evolution is actively occurring, wherever new traits are developing in new subpopulations, you are getting reduced genetic diversity as a necessary consequence and for that evolving line you are running out of the fuel for evolution. You can have lots of fuel in the mother population but if it's not forming new subspecies then you don't have evolution.
I know it's hard for you to consider you could be getting this wrong, but you are. Please rethink it.
You are still wrong for just the reason I explained: if you have a constant supply of fuel, you do not run out of fuel.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 181 of 225 (757675)
05-12-2015 1:12 AM
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05-12-2015 12:50 AM


Re: Evolution of What3ever
Well, fuel is not a very apt analogy for what is really going on. This is a dynamic thing that REQUIRES the loss of fuel to occur at all. Adding fuel will just keep it from occurring.
No. But feel free to expand on this.
Oh well. Maybe it will come to you in a dream.
Not even in my wildest dreams have I seen anything that would patch up the holes in your argument.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 224 of 225 (758784)
06-02-2015 2:12 PM
Reply to: Message 217 by Belcher
05-26-2015 2:07 AM


vAgreed with you on this point that science can answer many of question but still the science could not justify the death rate and birth rate, the milk phenomenon and many other things you might get the confusing answers from science but you will get firm answers from a true faith. Hope you got the answer.
O ... kay. Well I asked "a true faith" about "the milk phenomenon", and it turns out creationists are wrong about everything ... according to "a true faith", which gave me "firm answers". Golly, that was easy. Why does this forum even exist when it's that easy to settle the question?
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