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Message 91 of 93 (758100)
05-19-2015 12:41 PM

Reply to: Message 89 by ringo
05-19-2015 12:21 PM

Re: Increased Growth No Longer Leads to Increased Well-Being

ringo writes:

Trends in society over time aren't necessarily an indication of something that is "necessary" overall. At one time, a newer, bigger fridge meant happiness. At another time, a more environmentally friendly fridge might mean happiness.

It's very unlikely that having or not having a fridge upgrade/dpwngrade is likely to make anyone sustainably happy or unhappy. (But if you want an eco-fridge, someone has to produce it.)

But enough - it's still a trivial and spurious line of argument - the discussion is about aggregate output and demand and its linkage to aggregate well-being and happiness.

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Message 92 of 93 (758101)
05-19-2015 12:49 PM

Reply to: Message 91 by Tangle
05-19-2015 12:41 PM

Re: Increased Growth No Longer Leads to Increased Well-Being

Tangle writes:

(But if you want an eco-fridge, someone has to produce it.)

Exactly - they have to produce one, not a continuous series. Happiness, well-being, whatever, does not require continuous production. Something might require continuous production but happiness, well-being, etc. ain't it.