What is Christianity?

I'm not sure how many "literalists" would agree with you about this, but there are some of us who consider every word of the Bible to be authored by Christ, even consider the words themselves in a sense to BE Christ Himself who is called The Word of God. He quoted from all the Old Testament books, He told the men on the road to Emmaus that ALL the scriptures testify of Himself. So Moose would be right to enforce the idea that following the teachings of ALL scripture is the subject of this thread. Those who say anything else are wrong, even perniciously wrong.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Except that Moose did not actually say that, did he? In fact, he ruled that discussion of some of those Biblical literalist topics were off topic.I know that reading comprehension is hard, but when you are claiming to be a literal reader of the Bible, it would be good to set a better example of how to actually read.A Christian is a person who accepts Christ as his Lord and savior and who attempts to follow the example of Christ life and teachings. Most of the rest of the requirements people tack onto that are just dogma and baggage.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I seem to recall iano saying that the best place to learn "the gospel" is in Romans.

I am proposing that he should broaden his idea of what Christ taught.Trust you to make it into a lie. You're getting awfully good at that. Are you proud of yourself?

I am proposing that you get on topic.

I've never encountered a literalist who believed any such thing. In fact most of the people who claim to be literalists insist that you cannot be a Christian unless you read the entire Bible as literally true. Faith claims that Jesus 'authored' the entire Bible.

More than just that, in Message 106 she claims the entire Bible is Jesus.

It's God's Word. Jesus is God, therefore of course He authored the Bible. Father, Son and Holy Spirit, all acting as one through the Spirit.And yes, jar, Jesus is the Logos, the Word of God incarnate, He quoted from all the scriptures, He said all of them testify of Himself, the Bible points to Christ without any part of it being exempted.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

and in this case it demonstrates another facet common to many of the Chapters of Club Christian and that is, they think they are the real Christians and all the others are not. It's nothing new and a trait that appeared almost as soon as Jesus died and the entourage began creating a new religion.

Your own belief that YOUR ridiculous theological revisionism represents the true Christianity is Exhibit One for this ridiculous historical revisionism you push here.

Not, new no. But I do find it curious that when pinned down about what is required to be 'saved' these same people insist that the requirements are small in number (faith by Gods Grace) and that other's are false Christians because they add requirements or because the pastors where funny hats. And then these same buffoons find it easy to tell people they are not Christians because the fail to hold beliefs that have already been identified as irrelevant to salvation.Christianity is apparently a human creation completely separate and sometimes only peripherally related to believing in Jesus as the Christ. And that is a shame.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Another example of Faith's inability to keep from posting falsehoods.Faith, I have never claimed my belief system is the true Christianity and in fact have always said it is pretty much impossible to say what Christianity is other than being a member of some chapter, even the self identified chapters, of Club Christian. I have never denied that you are a Christian or that the Pope is a Christian or that even people like Calvin were Christians.

As best as I can tell, jar does not believe any such thing. You seem to be the lone Christian here set on excluding others who are trying to follow Christ.

So the more inclusive you are the more true your version of Christianity, but that's not claiming your view is the truth? What kind of gobbledygook is that?

***Because someone calls himself a Christian does not necessarily mean that he is. Just because Bruce Jenner now calls himself a woman does not mean that he is. Just because Rachel Dolezal says she is black does not mean that she is. People pretend to be whom they are not all the time. To be a Christian one must fit Christ's description of a Christian.
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***It is extremely difficult to explain what being a Christian entail to those who are carnal minded. But any discussion must begin with Who and What God is, and why did He create man. Let's begin in the first chapter of John:"1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made...
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not...
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."In the very beginning, before the angels and the universe were created, existed the Word. And, the Word was not only with God; He was God.How can this be? It is similar to John Smith being with his father. To paraphrase: In the beginning was John, and John was with Smith (his father), and John was Smith.We understand from vs. 3, 10, and 14 that the God person who came to earth as Jesus existed before this time as the Word (Greek, #3056 Logos, meaning Spokeman, or express image). We also see that it was the Personage known as the Word--later to become Jesus-- who created everything.Further proof that Jesus did the creating: Ephesians 3:9 "9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God (Theos #2316 Greek), who created all things by Jesus Christ:"It is clear that there are two personages involved here.Now let's go to Genesis 1:26 " 26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:"This is one member of God ( the Word--Spokesman) speaking to another member of God.
God here is from (Hebrew, Elohim--plural in form but single in grammatical usage--much like Greek Theos). Elohim is the same sort of word as committee, group, or family.Again in Genesis 3:22 we see one member of God speaking to another member of God; " 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us,"The word did not become the son of God until He had been begotten/sired by God and born of the virgin Mary.The relationship of the two changed in the NT. The greater of the two became the Father; the other became His son. A family. The God family at this time consists of these two personages. After the resurrection it will grow exponentially.the word son is used more than 400 times in the NT, and more than 50% of the time it refers to Jesus Christ . Father is used more than 250 times in reference to God. A family.Notice Hebrews 2:10-11 " 10 For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. 11 For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified are all of one: for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren,21:7 "7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son."Mt 12; 49-50 "49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother."There are hundreds of other verses that show God's ultimate plan is to create a family--a family of God Beings. This is why humans were created.Jesus is not ashamed to call us brethren because we will be sons of God, just like He is.Read in Romans 8 how the universe is waiting for the sons of God to occupy it. We will become creators, much like our Father is. The universe will become so breathtakingly beautiful.