Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9162 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: popoi
Post Volume: Total: 915,808 Year: 3,065/9,624 Month: 910/1,588 Week: 93/223 Day: 4/17 Hour: 1/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Stone Age v2? -- chimpanzees, monkeys
TheMatrix/DNA
Member (Idle past 1507 days)
Posts: 47
From: Newark-NJ-USA
Joined: 06-05-2015


Message 3 of 12 (766840)
08-22-2015 1:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by RAZD
08-22-2015 9:27 AM


quote:
These primates have developed a culture that makes routine use of a stone-based technology.
This is another evidence for a universal law that few people knows it. Why chimps and not gorillas making those tools? The gorillas were the most powerful genre among monkeys species, but, the DNA is telling us that instead selecting the gorillas for transcendence into human species, Nature went back in time and space of monkeys evolution, and caught a less powerful animal - some cousin of chimps. Why?
The answer should be known by humans' economic elites, dictators, kings, etc. And by those mirroring their actions based on moral values extracted from the modern interpretation of Darwinian theory.
Chimps transcended and were fixed into the trunk of the evolutionary tree gratefully due the mistake of gorillas. There is a video in Youtube showing that chimps attacks in groups the preys like smaller monkeys and cannibalize them. it is a strong indication that gorillas were cannibalizing chimps. So, since that gorillas were the owner of the territory and the food, chimps had trouble for surviving, and this stress is the stimulus, the source for creation, for to search any method that could help. Then, the chimps adventure into manufacturing tools.
Another lesson that came from the video of cannibal chimps is that they acts in groups for hurting instead gorillas that goes alone. It is indication that cooperation, the ability for socialization, and not competition, or the individual selfishness of gorillas, that leads a species to be successful.
Where are the dinosaurs, the most powerful from reptiles? Nature discarded dinosaurs and went back in time and volume, choosing the smaller cynodont for being the ancestral of mammals.
Where are the lions, kings of land? The wales, king of the oceans? The eagles, king of the air? Certainly going to extinction. So, it is not fitness, competition, power for fighting, smartness, physical force, the right values to be inferred from evolution. These traits leads the individuals to a dead end.
The informations for a more complex brain and initializing the production of consciousness from the biological systems at Earth were in the air, at the time when gorillas dominate. The source of these informations is another unknown and more elevated natural system in the systemic universal hierarchy. The humble chimps was opened to the insertion of these information, while the gorillas was a closed system avoiding them. Have you watched " 2001, The Space Odissey"?. These informations was represented by the black stone monolite.
Another important lesson from this issue is for Physics and Math. Evolution is not linear, it is curve. Everytime a new species becomes successful and the most evolved complexity in a given environment, the species accommodates in that way of living, super-specializes its functions and try to conserve eternally its ruled biospheric system. The species arrives to its limits for absorbing new information that comes from the system that is bigger and above the systemic immediate environment. One sample is the Republicans in United States, or the Senate of Roman Empire, etc. Conservadorism of an evolutionary shape that Nature considers as a temporary shape, it is not the final goal of evolution. So, Nature goes back in time, in relation to DNA, looking for the individuals or groups who DNA has no inserted the last informations, which are evolutionary wrong informations. Nature goes back in space, searching the individuals that has not become such heavy, inadequate for adapting to the next normal changing in the environment.
There is no way to inset this retrocess in time and space into mathematical equations. When trying to translate and calculating a natural process acting over any natural system, Math can't avoid to be linear, following a straight line of logics. Since that any great evolutionary transformations is composed by smaller cycles, and that every cycle begins as linear, before en-curving, the exercise of Math can predict the initial slice of future times, like Einstein predict the novelties about light and space. But, then, Math goes out, far away from the real beam, and people does not perceipt it.
That is why the modern astronomical models are wrong and so, their model of the state of the world at the moment of life's origins can not show the forces and elements that were applied for building life. The natural law applied for biological systems evolution was applied for cosmological evolution also, and that's why Nature did not choose the giant and powerful Jupiter, but, instead, chose the little and humble Earth for to be the ancestral included into the body of the new transcendent system called human being.
We need to propagate this lessons from Nature. If individuals like Hitler knew it, instead believing in the survival of the (fake) strongest, he would change his directions. Nature has potential for giving to humans moral values enough to build a peaceful and cooperative human social system. Cheers...

There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by RAZD, posted 08-22-2015 9:27 AM RAZD has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 4 by RAZD, posted 08-22-2015 3:36 PM TheMatrix/DNA has replied
 Message 5 by Coyote, posted 08-22-2015 3:37 PM TheMatrix/DNA has replied

  
TheMatrix/DNA
Member (Idle past 1507 days)
Posts: 47
From: Newark-NJ-USA
Joined: 06-05-2015


Message 10 of 12 (766993)
08-25-2015 1:55 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Coyote
08-22-2015 3:37 PM


Re: You have your facts wrong
quote:
You have your facts wrong
Nope. My post reveals that was wrote from the systemic method perspective, then, the facts that matter are not those details from the reductive method, this is interesting for those that works with the reductive method.
Universal laws, curved evolution, moral codes, the relevant issues in that post is what matter for us. That there are differences between chimps and gorillas we can see by naked eye, now, if we give the name of ape or monkey to them, these tinny details, does not matter.
So, do you agree or don't about those issues?

There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

This message is a reply to:
 Message 5 by Coyote, posted 08-22-2015 3:37 PM Coyote has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 12 by Coyote, posted 08-25-2015 9:15 AM TheMatrix/DNA has not replied

  
TheMatrix/DNA
Member (Idle past 1507 days)
Posts: 47
From: Newark-NJ-USA
Joined: 06-05-2015


Message 11 of 12 (766994)
08-25-2015 2:10 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by RAZD
08-22-2015 3:36 PM


Stone Age v2? -- chimpanzees, monkeys
quote:
Thank you for showing that chimp intelligence overlaps human intelligence.
Interesting! You had repeated exactly the words that natives of Amazon jungle told to me. I was having hard times for surviving while they watch smiling. They know every detail of the jungle and knowing that I don't - they said that till monkeys know more than me.
Of course, when I told to them some issues of natural philosophy the general approach of systemic method - they didn't understand one word and continuing to think they are more intelligent. I know that you also didn't understood one word of my post because you understand every detail of microbiological evolution and had no time for studying macro cosmological evolution, which is my issue. Enjoy.
Edited by TheMatrix/DNA, : wrong words

There was no origins of life and universe, astronomical systems are half-alive, light waves contains the code for life and DNA is not a code: Matrix/DNA Theory

This message is a reply to:
 Message 4 by RAZD, posted 08-22-2015 3:36 PM RAZD has seen this message but not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024