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Topic: Chariots of God (Scripture & Photo Examined)
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 871 of 1310 (767545)
08-30-2015 2:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 855 by ScottRP
08-29-2015 1:27 PM
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ScottRP writes: Yes. That is not to say that you or the person who took the photo would know the difference though.
So you're claiming that somebody could deliberately take a photograph of dust but you could still tell that it was the Holy Spirit? That isn't very plausible.
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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2395 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined: 02-17-2012
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Message 872 of 1310 (767623)
08-31-2015 8:50 AM
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Reply to: Message 867 by ScottRP
08-29-2015 11:43 PM
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I would suggest that you stop being gullible and throw some dust in the air and find out for yourself whether or not you can actually replicate the photographs that I have shown with dust. No it's the other way around. It's up to you to show that your pics can't be anything but spirits. And by the way, gullible isn't a word, go look in a dictionary.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 873 of 1310 (767663)
08-31-2015 2:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 872 by Bliyaal
08-31-2015 8:50 AM
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There is no better way than to see for yourself.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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I hope you'll understand if the rest of us go on giggling for a bit.
The things of the Spirit of God are foolish to you because you lack spiritual understanding.
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Bliyaal
Member (Idle past 2395 days) Posts: 171 From: Quebec City, Qc, Canada Joined: 02-17-2012
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Message 875 of 1310 (767810)
09-02-2015 11:06 AM
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Reply to: Message 874 by ScottRP
09-01-2015 10:08 PM
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Believe first, ask questions later. Totally makes sense.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 876 of 1310 (768093)
09-07-2015 12:44 PM
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Our Lady of Guadalupe
It is said this apparition miraculously appeared on fabric December 12, 1531. Notice the oblong shape around Mother Mary and the angel. I believe this was done through the Holy Spirit.
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9510 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 877 of 1310 (768095)
09-07-2015 1:28 PM
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Poe was right, you just can't tell. Today I'm mostly thinking loony.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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Coragyps
Member (Idle past 762 days) Posts: 5553 From: Snyder, Texas, USA Joined: 11-12-2002
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Message 878 of 1310 (768096)
09-07-2015 3:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 876 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 12:44 PM
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Re: Our Lady of Guadalupe
That oblong shape is a bathtub standing on end. That's how it is universally done to this very day.
"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken
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JonF
Member (Idle past 195 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 879 of 1310 (768101)
09-07-2015 5:27 PM
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Reply to: Message 878 by Coragyps
09-07-2015 3:07 PM
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Re: Our Lady of Guadalupe
The Holy Spirit has a thing for bathtubs. We try to avoid mentioning it. It's not pretty. BVM in a bathtub is a common garden accent in these parts.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 880 of 1310 (768102)
09-07-2015 5:43 PM
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A bathtub...really? A very immature level is manifested when an intelligent debate fails the person. Edited by ScottRP, : No reason given.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4443 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 881 of 1310 (768104)
09-07-2015 6:14 PM
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Reply to: Message 880 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 5:43 PM
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ScottRP writes: I very immature level is manifested when an intelligent debate fails the person. What? In other words......?
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3990 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 6.9
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Message 882 of 1310 (768105)
09-07-2015 6:24 PM
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Reply to: Message 879 by JonF
09-07-2015 5:27 PM
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Re: Our Lady of Guadalupe
JonF writes: BVM in a bathtub is a common garden accent in these parts. I choose to see those as Venus rising from the waves...
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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A very immature level is manifested when an intelligent debate fails the person.
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Coyote
Member (Idle past 2133 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: 01-12-2008
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Message 884 of 1310 (768112)
09-07-2015 9:13 PM
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Reply to: Message 883 by ScottRP
09-07-2015 8:14 PM
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Evidence?
Evidence rather than unsupported assertions and unsupported correlations would be a big help. Can you provide any? And no, scripture is not evidence...
Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.
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ScottRP
Member (Idle past 175 days) Posts: 515 From: Tustin, California USA Joined: 02-26-2015
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Message 885 of 1310 (768113)
09-07-2015 9:30 PM
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Reply to: Message 884 by Coyote
09-07-2015 9:13 PM
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Re: Evidence?
Without scripture, how will you know what the evidence is?
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