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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
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Some insight here but you ignore the addiction angle and that put's it a cut above as it warns of a real phenomenon. RegardsDL
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Tangle Member Posts: 9514 From: UK Joined: Member Rating: 4.8 |
GIA writes: You have access to the greatest education tool yet devised just as I do. But it's you that is making the claims - which at the seems both hyperbolic and non-scientific - and are willing to censor the internet on the basis of them. I'm prepared to be convinced that this may be causing harm, but it's up to you to convince me - and us.Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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ThinAirDesigns Member (Idle past 2402 days) Posts: 564 Joined: |
my understanding is that most porn sites are not free Your understanding is wrong. I would bet real money that I could find you a hundred free sites for every pay site. To prove this to yourself, just make sure "safe search" is off in Google images and simply search the word "Porn". JB Edited by ThinAirDesigns, : No reason given.
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
I hear you but as Gary Wilson indicated in his talk, stats are hard to come by.
I do have a bit more that I collected from the political arena and science via experts but other than many pointing to an epidemic, none are putting numbers to their talks. Enough Is Enough: Pornography Even Muslims are agreeing with Western sources. internet porn - Yahoo Video Search Results RegardsDL
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Jon writes:
I googled a woman's name once (it wasn't "Candy" but it was something like that) and most of the hits were porn. I'm at the public library, so I'm not going to try to replicate the experiment today.
I googled 'porn' (does it get simpler than that?)
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Censorship is relatively easy. Try to find any child porn and see how hard it is. Censorship is relatively easy if people agree to it. Child pornography seems to be something that our society has agreed to outlaw and enforce restrictions on. I agree that parents in the general population are not doing a good job with sex education and in many cases neither are the schools. My wife and I taught our kids about sex and they are teaching their kids and monitoring what they watch on TV and the internet
Censorship or restricted access is what is required and we do not have that. We could easily have it but adults are self-centered and do not care about the welfare of our children if it is to cost them one of their pleasures, it seems. The question is, who decides what should be restricted and what should not. There seems to be a consensus about child porn, but beyond that everyone has their own levels of what is acceptable. I personally don't accept anyone else telling me what I can or cannot see or read or hear. There is not one politician, or religious leader that I recognize as having the authority to make those decisions for me. Living in a free society bestows liberty and responsibility on all of us, but we each have to act as individuals and make up our own minds about what we want to see or not see. What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Greatest I am Member (Idle past 303 days) Posts: 1676 Joined: |
Tanypteryx
"monitoring what they watch on TV and the internet" With respect, I see that as delusional thinking, especially now with many children having cell phones with internet capabilities. ---------- "The question is, who decides what should be restricted and what should not. There seems to be a consensus about child porn, but beyond that everyone has their own levels of what is acceptable." This is where consensus comes into play, after the need is recognized, and people/experts are chosen to make proposals to government. No one person has the expertise on this issue. ----------- "I personally don't accept anyone else telling me what I can or cannot see or read or hear. There is not one politician, or religious leader that I recognize as having the authority to make those decisions for me." You personally have no choice where child porn is concerned so our individual desires mean nothing when you and I choose to be governed by majority rule. You do accept those restriction as you have no more choice than any of us unless you choose to break the law. But this is not about what we want. It is about what is best for our next generation. We are powerless to do the right thing and have to censor or directly choose to consume porn products. To just leave those addictive products accessible to children is just irresponsible of us and poor parenting. RegardsDL
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
But this is not about what we want. It is about what is best for our next generation. I only have time for this short answer right now. I seem to be having some connection problems this morning. I don't happen to agree with you that censorship is what's best for the next generation.
You personally have no choice where child porn is concerned so our individual desires mean nothing when you and I choose to be governed by majority rule. Child pornography was made illegal because it exploits children, not because of its effect on viewers. Charging those who posess child porn with a crime is an attempt to dry up the market for those material. Majority rule does not trump freedom of speech or expression or the press. Censorship always seems to go too far.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
so I'm told
Why rely on what you're told? Are you really this naive, Jon?
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7
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you ignore the addiction angle and that put's it a cut above as it warns of a real phenomenon Does it?
Does Porn Hurt Children? quote: But everyone just knows that porn leads to sex addiction and violence.
quote: So the only link between porn and bad behavior is that so many kids engage in both. Kids also eat ice cream and kids often masturbate. Causal?
quote: But everyone just knows that porn leads to sex addiction and violence. No one is saying there is no effect. But to what extent?
quote: So, is there a real problem between kids and porn? Yes, but apparently the real problem is not what we all seem to just know.
quote: Is internet porn ruining our next generation? If our next generation is being ruined is the cause porn or cell phones or music or TV or parenting or ...?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
Loosen up, or you'll end up like Tanypteryx. funnyWhat if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8564 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 4.7 |
Loosen up, or you'll end up like Tanypteryx. Could do a whole lot worse. Could end up like ... someone else.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0 |
So the only link between porn and bad behavior is that so many kids engage in both. Sounds just like when we were kids.
Kids also eat ice cream and kids often masturbate. Causal? Nope, but messy if done at the same time.
If our next generation is being ruined is the cause porn or cell phones or music or TV or parenting or ...? Cheetos....no, computers....no, Cheetos.....What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4451 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.0
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Loosen up, or you'll end up like Tanypteryx.
Could do a whole lot worse. Could end up like ... someone else. I lucked out and ended up just like Tanypteryx.....What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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