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RAZD
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Message 26 of 83 (714965)
12-30-2013 11:56 AM


Atheos canadensis and Faith
I'd like to nominate Atheos canadensis and Faith for 'Post of the Month' for their participation on
Why the Flood Never Happened (more than one post I know)
We haven't had one for a while now.
This thread turned into a quite lively discussion, covering a lot of topics, but Atheos canadensis kept to his points throughout. It is nice to see a new member grow and learn to debate with respect for others.
He was helped of course by Faith, as no thread gets far without someone to debate with, and she certainly held up the creationist side as well as anyone could expect.
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Message 48 of 83 (733701)
07-20-2014 2:07 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by Minnemooseus
07-19-2014 7:27 PM


Capt Stormfield
Thanks Moose.
I would like to nominate Capt Stormfield
Geology and the Great Flood
Growing the Geologic Column
Message 18
Excellent analogy of geological column to historical record patchwork from different locations around the world:
When considering this history, it would be, well, odd to consider an outbreak of typhus in a particular city in France as somehow presenting a challenge to our image of history because it was not recorded in a different city in Italy. To further claim that this occurrence ("intrusion") of typhus ("lava") into the records of the French town was not part of history ("the geological column") would also be odd, to say the least.
Local differences, loss of records by burning (erosion), etc.
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Message 58 of 83 (759726)
06-14-2015 6:24 PM


And another
Mr Hambre @ Message 28 on the Stephen Jay Gould: The Hedgehog, the Fox, and the Magister’s Pox thread.
Even in this thread, people talk about science as if it's synonymous with reality, or that it's self-evident that it's the only source of knowledge worth considering. If scientists like Dawkins and Krauss tell us we're nothing but gene machines or cosmic pollution, then dammit, that's all we are. If there were anything unique or meaningful about human existence, the story goes, science would have detected it by now! The audience for this sort of cheerleading has been groomed by a culture where gadgetry is more important than the arts or humanities, and where our view of what constitutes empirical inquiry is de-historicized and philosophically shallow.
You might want to move the discussion from the |Book Nook| forum to |Is it Science| ...
And yes, welcome back.
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Message 65 of 83 (768802)
09-14-2015 7:42 AM


Rrhain on Gay Marriage, Seperate but Equal
Landmark gay marriage trial starts today in California, Message 722
Well said, especially when he gets to
And to Faith's idea that "blacks find it offensive," I find it offensive that anybody would dare to deny the equivalency of the fight for civil rights based upon race with the fight for civil rights based upon sexual orientation. If we're going to go down that road, gays have it worse:
Kudos
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Message 70 of 83 (770908)
10-15-2015 1:34 PM


Blue Jay
A New Run at the End of Evolution by Genetic Processes Argument - Message 104
I feel like I’ve made a good-faith effort to understand and explain, but I’m still having trouble identifying what keeps you from agreeing with my perspective on what is and what isn’t rational.
Maybe it’s because I’ve only ever presented one paper on beneficial mutations? Maybe you think we only have one experiment that supports our idea that mutations create new alleles? Is that the problem?
Just in case it is, here are a few more examples:
... (see link)
When we say that alleles come from mutations, we aren’t making wild, unfounded assumptions. There really is very good evidence that alleles come from mutations, and a lot of scientists have put in a lot of hard work to acquire that evidence. And, there is no evidence that alleles come from anywhere else. Until that evidence comes out, mutation seems like the best --- indeed, the only --- hypothesis we’ve got.
Science does not work on assumptions, but on hypothesis developed from evidence in order to explain the evidence.
A good and to the point post.
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Edited by Adminnemooseus, : Fixed message number link - RAZD was an order of magnitude off - Had 77090, needed to be 770901.

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