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Author Topic:   New Species of Homo Discovered: Homo naledi
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Message 104 of 163 (768662)
09-12-2015 8:43 PM
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09-12-2015 8:08 PM


Re: Moderator Attempt at Clarification
Some kind of semantic nonsense is going on here. The skeleton shows no difference in the length of the thumb from the fingers. My own hand shows a large difference. I have a much shorter thumb relative to my fingers than the one belonging to the skeleton has. The pictures of hands Dr. A and others have been posting show various versions of thumbs that are shorter than the fingers. The skeleton does not have a thumb that is shorter than the fingers. I don't know what everybody's problem is but the skeleton does not show a human type hand because the thumb is as long as the fingers. It doesn't show any kind of hand, not ape either. But certainly not a human hand.

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Message 108 of 163 (768670)
09-12-2015 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 107 by NosyNed
09-12-2015 9:34 PM


Re: Thumb length
I see my hand as like the radiograph of a human hand.
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Message 109 of 163 (768671)
09-12-2015 9:38 PM
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09-12-2015 9:15 PM


Re: Dem Bones
Put it this way: THERE IS NO WAY TO TELL WHAT SORT OF HAND THAT IS FROM THE WAY THE BONES ARE ARRANGED.

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Message 112 of 163 (768680)
09-12-2015 10:30 PM
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09-12-2015 9:40 PM


Re: Thumb length
Yeah, I knew you couldn't tell one from another.

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Message 119 of 163 (768814)
09-14-2015 9:56 AM
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09-14-2015 8:05 AM


Thank you for being polite.
Essentially then the hand is a human hand, even though the bones as arranged on the skeleton are indecipherable. Human hands differ from one another just as everything else about us differs from one to another, and such a small difference doesn't make this skeleton anything other than a human being.
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Message 139 of 163 (769322)
09-19-2015 12:09 PM
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09-19-2015 10:55 AM


Mostly just want to say thanks for treating my thoughts as intelligent. I think that makes you unique at EvC. But I don't really want to continue the debate here, just add a couple more thoughts and be gone.
Skull B doesn't look very human either, or C either really, but the only one I'm really sure isn't human is A so I left it at that.
Pod Mrcaru shows that microevolution doesn't require millions of years, which is what a creationist would expect from a built-in set of genetic possibilities. To find out if the lizards have enough genetic diversity left for a further change you could isolate another set of pairs and see what happens. You need genetic diversity for evolution and evolution itself uses up genetic diversity. But I don't want to go down that trail again.
Thanks again.
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Message 147 of 163 (769352)
09-19-2015 8:41 PM
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09-19-2015 1:39 PM


ooops
True, I change my mind a lot. Sorry to be so difficult. Go ahead and bar me from this thread now, I think that's best. Thanks. .
ABE: OK, SORRY, YES I'M CHANGING MY MIND AGAIN, IN TIME TO STAY ON THE THREAD I HOPE. Yes I sincerely thought there was no point in being here and I had nothing more to say and I've been involved in a completely different project that's been taking a lot of time and didn't want to deal with the things at EvC right now in any depth.
But then dwise came along and posted something I keep thinking about in spite of myself.
I will try to keep from saying I'm leaving from now on since I so often don't. Please forgive.
Thanks.
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Message 149 of 163 (769358)
09-19-2015 10:54 PM
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09-19-2015 8:53 PM


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Message 152 of 163 (769364)
09-20-2015 6:18 AM
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09-20-2015 2:16 AM


there's just something funny about the transitionals idea
MOVED THIS POST TO THE OTHER THREAD AS PER RAZD'S REQUEST. Hid this one.
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