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Message 2 of 508 (772423)
11-13-2015 9:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
11-13-2015 8:24 PM


Let in tens of thousands of "refuges," almost all of whom are young Arab/muslim males and you expect something different?
What was that definition of "insanity" again?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 4 of 508 (772426)
11-13-2015 10:21 PM
Reply to: Message 3 by JonF
11-13-2015 10:05 PM


Most likely it's the ones the refugees are running from.
Women and children first doesn't seem to be a major part of their culture.
Also, until there is some reliable way to determine which ones are true refuges and which are ticking time bombs, wouldn't it be prudent to halt the overwhelming immigration?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 43 of 508 (772476)
11-14-2015 2:47 PM


'Just wait' Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of extremists into Europe
AN OPERATIVE working for Islamic State has revealed the terror group has successfully smuggled thousands of covert jihadists into Europe.
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Islamic State reveals it has smuggled THOUSANDS of extremists into Europe | World | News | Express.co.uk

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 55 of 508 (772490)
11-14-2015 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Dr Adequate
11-14-2015 6:44 PM


Your headcount link does not seem to list immigrants to Europe.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 59 of 508 (772499)
11-14-2015 9:02 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Dogmafood
11-14-2015 8:45 PM


An opportunity to act like a decent human being instead of dropping bombs from the sky.
A noble goal.
But, those who are coming to the west for refuge have an obligation too. They should not be trying to bomb and destroy, or hiding those who are, they should not be trying to impose their failed way of life on their new homes, they should respect the laws and customs of their new homes (think Sweden and rape), and they should not be ungrateful and demanding of free stuff, while giving nothing in return.
Is that too much to ask?

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Coyote
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Message 62 of 508 (772502)
11-14-2015 10:49 PM
Reply to: Message 61 by Dogmafood
11-14-2015 10:41 PM


Better avoid large crowds then...
I'd advise going armed but you're deprived of that choice.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Coyote
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Message 64 of 508 (772504)
11-14-2015 10:59 PM
Reply to: Message 63 by Dr Adequate
11-14-2015 10:55 PM


The pattern we're seeing more often is a mix of bombs and automatic weapons.
An armed populace would be effective against that, while all the gun laws out there wouldn't prevent terrorists from acquiring guns.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Coyote
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Message 70 of 508 (772520)
11-15-2015 12:12 PM
Reply to: Message 69 by Tangle
11-15-2015 11:42 AM


Re: A Few Details
And all over the west they are admitting more of these guys?
Safer to kiss a rattlesnake.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 76 of 508 (772528)
11-15-2015 1:30 PM
Reply to: Message 74 by ringo
11-15-2015 1:20 PM


Re: A Few Details
I'm neither young nor Muslim but I believe suicide bombings are as justifiable as bombing Muslims.
Suicide bombings target civilians.
"Bombing muslims" is a false dichotomy as the targets are military or fighters. The intent is not to target civilians.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Coyote
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Message 85 of 508 (772537)
11-15-2015 2:11 PM
Reply to: Message 84 by ringo
11-15-2015 2:04 PM


Re: A Few Details
A suicide bomber seeks to kill and main as many innocents as possible.
If you can't tell the difference perhaps you should seek to understand why.

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

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Message 106 of 508 (772598)
11-16-2015 1:12 PM


Tweren't the Mormons.
(Jeremiah Johnson movie reference.)

  
Coyote
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Message 215 of 508 (772801)
11-18-2015 9:49 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Modulous
11-18-2015 9:09 PM


Re: A Few Details
A Taliban commander is not a leader of Islam.
Tweren't a Mormon.
(Movie reference)

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Coyote
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Message 269 of 508 (773008)
11-22-2015 9:54 PM


Third Stade de France suicide bomber 'snuck into Europe via Greece after posing as asylum seeker with fellow Paris jihadi'
The third jihadi to blow themselves up near the Stade de France has been pictured and named tonight as it is revealed he entered Europe via Greece with a fellow attacker.
Today French police issued a new appeal to identify the man believed to have helped carry out the bombings during the Paris attacks on November 13.
He was among three jihadis to die when they blew themselves up outside the stadium, and is believed to have entered Europe as an asylum-seeking migrant.
More
Paris police issue photograph of the third Stade de France bomber | Daily Mail Online

Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.
Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein
In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool
It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers
If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle
If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1
"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

  
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