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Topic: Gun Control Again
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dronestar
Member Posts: 1417 From: usa Joined: 11-19-2008 Member Rating: 6.5
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Re: I AM suggesting . . .
Omnivorous writes: and all to shame me. M'eh, sometimes shame works as a debate tactic. However, the "humor" was really for me though. It helps fight depression I am getting from this topic. I suppose I could try liquor or drugs.
Omnivorous writes: Sure, stop every manner in which the U.S. helps funds get to terrorists-- Good. Hooray. You're back on Team-Dronestar.
Omnivorous writes: we'll emerge far more bloodied if we don't defend ourselves effectively in the meantime. Merely locking the cabin doors of airliners, the only practical measure I've seen you support, won't get it. Agreed. To a degree. Every dollar in the world that goes to health care, education, real democratic reform, reduces terrorism. Every dollar that goes to anti-aircraft weaponry on everybody's roof . . .
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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. Dwight D. Eisenhower
I depressingly concede, after fifty+ years of manufacturing bullets and warships for ourselves and the world, maybe the only delicate security we may ever have in the future, is individualized weaponry. Umm, kudos american/Brit foreign policy, kudos.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: I AM suggesting . . .
Omni writes: The goal is to prevent strikes on a densely populated central target. One assumes there will be fewer casualties in more thinly populated outlying areas by mounting defenses at the city's perimeter.
IF you can muster the political will to shoot hundreds of civilians out of the sky, you still have the problem of anticipating where the wreckage lands. I doubt that you can aim your collateral damage that accurately.
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3985 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 7.2
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Message 4473 of 5179 (772974)
11-21-2015 1:44 PM
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Reply to: Message 4472 by ringo
11-21-2015 10:52 AM
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Re: I AM suggesting . . .
Uh...okay.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 4474 of 5179 (773276)
11-27-2015 4:34 PM
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Responsible Gun Owner Of The Week (Runner Up)
I imagine we're going to talk quite a bit about the winner and his responsible attempt to bring conservative values back to America, but surely this guy deserves an honorable mention.
An enraged Waffle House customer shot and killed a waitress early Friday who asked him not to smoke. Police said Johnny Mount was eating about 1 a.m. at the restaurant in Biloxi, Mississippi, when he lit a cigarette, reported WLOX-TV. A waitress asked the 45-year-old Mount to put out the cigarette or smoke outside, and he began arguing with her. Police said Mount then pulled out a 9 mm handgun he had concealed under his shirt and shot the 52-year-old waitress in the head. "An armed society is a polite society."
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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Message 4475 of 5179 (773280)
11-27-2015 9:52 PM
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Another nut doing the lord's work
Another gun nut exercising his 2nd Amendment rights.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 4476 of 5179 (773444)
12-01-2015 10:44 PM
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Another Responsible Gun Owner
Here.
While inside the car, Aragon Salas removed the handgun’s magazine and pointed the gun down at Martinez’s legs, with a round still in the chamber, according to police. Police say when Aragon Salas pulled the trigger, the gun fired and the bullet traveled through both of Martinez’s legs. Shortly after the incident, Martinez arrived at Mercy Iowa City with gunshot wounds in both legs. When asked by police, Martinez said he was walking through a southside Iowa City apartment complex when he was randomly shot multiple times by black males he didn’t recognize, according to police. Police say Martinez’s false report forced police to call in several off-duty officers in an effort to locate a shooter believed to be at large in the community. So, that went well.
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Diomedes
Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined: 09-13-2013
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Re: Another Responsible Gun Owner
Police say when Aragon Salas pulled the trigger, the gun fired and the bullet traveled through both of Martinez’s legs. If there is any upside (for him anyway), at least he didn't blow off his own junk. Which has happened in the past with other 'responsible gun owners'.
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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Message 4478 of 5179 (773495)
12-02-2015 5:50 PM
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Another one
Police: At least 14 dead in San Bernardino shooting; suspects have fled
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Hyroglyphx
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Re: Another one
The answer is so obvious... Clearly we have to uninvent the gun.
"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Re: Another one
Another day, another responsible gun owner.
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Re: Another one
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.4
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Re: Another one
Yep, makes me feel so safe. I need more guns.....if I get a big enough pile I can hide behind them.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 4483 of 5179 (773512)
12-03-2015 9:36 AM
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Percy
Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 4484 of 5179 (773632)
12-04-2015 8:29 PM
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Extremist Data: Islamic v. Non-Islamic
From today's New York Times:
Also posted this over at Message 441. Non-Islamic extremists are apparently in a real horse race with Islamic extremists. --Percy Edited by Percy, : Fix message link
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Percy
Member Posts: 22480 From: New Hampshire Joined: 12-23-2000 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 4485 of 5179 (773634)
12-04-2015 8:44 PM
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Gun Danger in Other Countries:
From today's New York Times: Mortality Rates: In Other Countries, You’re as Likely to Be Killed by a Falling Object as by a Gun Click on this article and watch the headline change every few seconds. A couple examples:
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Gun homicides in England are about as common as deaths from agricultural machinery accidents in the United States.
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Gun homicides in Germany are about as common as deaths from thrown or falling objects in the United States.
--Percy
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