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Pressie
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11-23-2015 6:16 AM


This is a topic where I ask the question whether the US and Canada should tolerate the small minority of intolerant Christians such as those who demonstrated against the US at the funerals of US servicemen and women who died doing service in Iraq. Shouldn't those people be deported?
Coffee House please.

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11-23-2015 8:01 AM
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Pressie writes:
Coffee House please.
You're already there.

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Omnivorous
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Message 3 of 12 (773018)
11-23-2015 9:46 AM
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11-23-2015 6:16 AM


Pressie writes:
Shouldn't those people be deported?
Deportation seems harsh.
Internment camps and two years of security screening should suffice.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Message 4 of 12 (773020)
11-23-2015 10:07 AM
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11-23-2015 9:46 AM


Deportation seems harsh.
Seems like it given that we are talking about US citizens. "Deportation" would actually mean exiling them form the US! How about just a really bad snubbing?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Message 5 of 12 (773021)
11-23-2015 11:13 AM
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11-23-2015 10:07 AM


Community service would be about as rich as irony and justice can get.
Bringing Meals On Wheels to gay disabled vets sounds about right.
Edited by Omnivorous, : No reason given.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Message 6 of 12 (773022)
11-23-2015 11:40 AM
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11-23-2015 6:16 AM


To paraphrase Gandhi, if we were intolerant of intolerance we'd all be deported.

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Omnivorous
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Message 7 of 12 (773023)
11-23-2015 12:27 PM
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11-23-2015 11:40 AM


ringo writes:
To paraphrase Gandhi, if we were intolerant of intolerance we'd all be deported.
Wise words.
But have no fear about the intolerant paying any price. Intolerance is more widely tolerated than wisdom.
Edited by Omnivorous, : No reason given.

"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads."
Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence

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Message 8 of 12 (773028)
11-23-2015 1:41 PM


We have what we have.
But we shouldn't let any more in if, let's say, there are some wanting to immigrate here.
As citizens, though, the ones already here have rights and cannot simply be 'sent away'.
ABE: And no, we shouldn't tolerate them, wherever they may be.
Edited by Jon, : No reason given.

Love your enemies!

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Message 9 of 12 (773029)
11-23-2015 2:03 PM
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11-23-2015 12:27 PM


Made me recall this:
"As some warn victory, some downfall
Private reasons great or small
Can be seen in the eyes of those that call
To make all that should be killed to crawl
While others say don't hate nothing at all
Except hatred."

- xongsmith, 5.7d

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saab93f
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Message 10 of 12 (773057)
11-24-2015 7:33 AM
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11-23-2015 1:41 PM


A light chuckle...
Fundamentalist christians ala WBC or SDA are better than fundie muslims in a sense that gonorrhea is better than herpes.

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Pressie
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Message 11 of 12 (773059)
11-24-2015 7:59 AM
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11-23-2015 10:07 AM


NoNukes writes:
Seems like it given that we are talking about US citizens.
Can't they change the constitution and just take their US nationality away? Or just send them to Guantanamo Bay?

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Pressie
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Message 12 of 12 (773061)
11-24-2015 8:04 AM
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11-23-2015 11:13 AM


omnivorous writes:
Bringing Meals On Wheels to gay disabled vets sounds about right.
That's a great solution to the problem!

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