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Topic: Oh No, The New Awesome Primary Thread
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 436 of 1639 (773833)
12-09-2015 6:07 PM
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Reply to: Message 435 by caffeine
12-09-2015 3:48 PM
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Re: This too shall pass
Whilst not a fan of Reagan, I don't really think he's comparable to Trump. Can't see Reagan proposing you ban all Muslims from the country. You are right, he didn't say as much hateful stuff, but he pretended to embrace the religious right nutballs to get their votes and that is what gave them a big boost to political power and now they have most of the republicans right by the balls. Plus they have got a whole bunch of their own dimwits seats in congress, state governments and the supreme court. The worst damage he did though was economic policy that was a huge transfer of wealth to the richest 1% and 0.1%. He laid the groundwork for the oligarchy that controls most of the U.S. government and is rapidly gaining control of society. Without the braindead Reagan we would not have the GOP clown car that is headed for the train wreck today.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Minnemooseus
Member Posts: 3945 From: Duluth, Minnesota, U.S. (West end of Lake Superior) Joined: 11-11-2001 Member Rating: 10.0
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Message 437 of 1639 (773835)
12-09-2015 7:05 PM
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Andrew Dice Clay + lots of money = Donald Trump
Doing the most epic stand-up comedy tour ever. Moose
Professor, geology, Whatsamatta U
Evolution - Changes in the environment, caused by the interactions of the components of the environment. "Do not meddle in the affairs of cats, for they are subtle and will piss on your computer." - Bruce Graham "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness." - John Kenneth Galbraith "Yesterday on Fox News, commentator Glenn Beck said that he believes President Obama is a racist. To be fair, every time you watch Glenn Beck, it does get a little easier to hate white people." - Conan O'Brien "I know a little about a lot of things, and a lot about a few things, but I'm highly ignorant about everything." - Moose
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Tangle
Member Posts: 9504 From: UK Joined: 10-07-2011 Member Rating: 4.8
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Message 438 of 1639 (773867)
12-10-2015 8:47 AM
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Trump banned from UK
There's an online petition to ban Trump from the UK. At the moment it has 425,000 votes. This means that the UK Parliament must consider it for debate. Block Donald J Trump from UK entry - Petitions He's already been dropped as the business ambassador to Scotland and been stripped of his honourary degree from Robert Gordon University. When he gets to be president of the USA (no!) he's going to have a tricky time with foreign policy.
Je suis Charlie. Je suis Ahmed. Je suis Juif. Je suis Parisien. Life, don't talk to me about life - Marvin the Paranoid Android "Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.
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RAZD
Member (Idle past 1427 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: 03-14-2004
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Message 439 of 1639 (773920)
12-10-2015 4:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 438 by Tangle
12-10-2015 8:47 AM
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Re: Trump banned from UK
When IF he gets to be president of the USA (no!) he's going to have a tricky time with foreign policy.
Because it is foreign to him. 
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 440 of 1639 (773924)
12-10-2015 8:18 PM
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Reply to: Message 439 by RAZD
12-10-2015 4:55 PM
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Re: Trump banned from UK
Couldn't we just ban him from all places that aren't the sea?
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 441 of 1639 (774720)
12-21-2015 1:22 PM
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Lindsey Graham Out
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3985 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 7.2
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Re: Lindsey Graham Out
At the last debate, he sounded like the Last Sane Man, and, in short, I was afraid.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence
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Tanypteryx
Member Posts: 4413 From: Oregon, USA Joined: 08-27-2006 Member Rating: 5.3
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Message 443 of 1639 (774838)
12-23-2015 2:58 PM
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Uncanny Resemblance
When I saw this beetle for the first time I instantly recognized it. This is Pseudopityophthorus pubipennis, a barkbeetle in a taxonomic clade called Scolytines. I believe they have been lumped in with Weevils or the Curculionoidea superfamily. It is also grouped in descriptive, but non-taxonomic group called Ambrosia Beetles because they carry various species of fungus spores that infect a plant and the beetle larvae eat the infected wood or the fungi. The spores are carried in specialized structures on some species of beetles. None of that really matters because the photo speaks for itself. This is the frons or forehead and is maybe 0.5 mm across (about the size a period on your screen.
I decided it would go better here than the humor thread. Enjoy
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Omnivorous
Member Posts: 3985 From: Adirondackia Joined: 07-21-2005 Member Rating: 7.2
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Re: Uncanny Resemblance
Tanypteryx writes: they carry various species of fungus spores that infect a plant and the beetle larvae eat the infected wood or the fungi Apt. Hair today, ruin tomorrow.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.
-Terence
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 445 of 1639 (775132)
12-28-2015 4:38 PM
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The start of a 3rd political party?
It is way too early for sure, but the rumblings have started to edge towards serious discussion by at least some republican establishment types. If Trump wins enough primary delegates to take the nomination prior to the republican convention watch for republican establishment pols to, in essence, boycott the convention. This is potentially 3rd party stuff. Real, actual, effective 3rd party stuff. If the republican establishment leaves home they will not give up politics but unfurl a new banner with, potentially, some very powerful national and state players in their new party cadre. The next 10-20 years of american domestic politics would become very interesting indeed. Reminiscent of the Federalist-Whig-Republican mashup of the first half of the 1800's?
Republicans to flee convention?
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 446 of 1639 (775140)
12-28-2015 8:41 PM
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Reply to: Message 445 by AZPaul3
12-28-2015 4:38 PM
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Re: The start of a 3rd political party?
Maybe even bring back the Bull Moose.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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AZPaul3
Member Posts: 8536 From: Phoenix Joined: 11-06-2006 Member Rating: 5.0
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Message 447 of 1639 (775147)
12-28-2015 11:56 PM
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Reply to: Message 446 by jar
12-28-2015 8:41 PM
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Re: The start of a 3rd political party?
Generally, I wouldn't stand between a man and national fame and fortune but in this case Moose is too valuable to us here. I don't think we should give him up so easily. The Jeffersonian Party?
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JonF
Member (Idle past 190 days) Posts: 6174 Joined: 06-23-2003
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Message 448 of 1639 (775194)
12-29-2015 7:02 PM
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Someone needs to understand statiscal significance.
Four out of ten African-Americans would vote for Trump. Literally. They asked ten African-Americans and four said they'd vote for Trump. Http ://wonkette.com/597425/two-whole-tens-of-minorities-line-up-behind-donald-trump {WARNING: extreme liberal snarkiness, but I won't link to WND.
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LamarkNewAge
Member Posts: 2329 Joined: 12-22-2015 Member Rating: 1.2
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Message 449 of 1639 (775581)
01-02-2016 9:44 PM
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Trump vs. Clinton polls (and other current polls Jan 2016)
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Presidential frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump remain all tied up in a hypothetical matchup heading into 2016. If the 2016 presidential election was held today, 37% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for Clinton, while 36% would vote for Trump. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that a sizable 22% would choose some other candidate, while five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.) Clinton vs. Trump: Still A Dead Heat - Rasmussen Reports®
The next most recent was a CNN poll which gave Clinton a 49%-47% edge over Trump. I suspect both under-estimate the support Trump will snatch from black voters (the strong anti-immigration views of Trump combined with his social-conservative stances might earn him the highest GOP support among blacks since 1984) Here is the average of all the most recent polls (from the past month I think)
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Real Clear average
Clinton 45.6
Trump40.8 realclearpolitics.com
Cruz does better on paper against Clinton, but he doesn't support deporting undocumented immigrants (that means he has less chance of getting significant black support imo)
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Real Clear average
Clinton 45.0
Cruz 45.0
realclearpolitics.com
Trump does better against Sanders on paper, but I suspect Sanders will do better in the general against Trump (some recent polls suggest such) because Sanders can articulate the benefits of single-payer and the fact that Trump defended it's world-wide success in the famous August 2015 GOP debate.
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Real Clear average
Sanders 44.3
Trump 42.3
realclearpolitics.com
The Sanders verses Cruz is a mix of very old and recent polls. Cruz has gained strength lately against all his opponents (general and primary)
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Real Clear Average
Sanders 45.0
Cruz 41.7
realclearpolitics.com
I think the evidence (not just the polls btw) clearly shows that the Republicans have the best shot of winning if Clinton is the nominee (I suspect she will ).They will maul her over the gun issue (Obama ran in 2008 and 2012 as pro-gun so that issue was almost 100% off the table). I predict that the Republicans take the white house, though low energy prices (at present) give the Democrats a chance to squeak by. (Democrats can't expect another hurricane over New York late in the race to neutralize the strong energy/environment advantage the GOP enjoys. The super-hot summer of 2012 also helped minimize the GOP advantage on that issue) EDIT- I found an article that backs up what I said about blacks and immigration Polls Don’t Capture Blacks’ Intense Debate Over Immigration – IMDiversity here is a prediction of high at the pump gas prices in 2016 Bloomberg - Are you a robot? Edited by LamarkNewAge, : No reason given.
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Hyroglyphx
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Re: Trump vs. Clinton polls (and other current polls Jan 2016)
Presidential polling is pure bullshit. And if my choices are Clinton or Trump, I choose armed revolution.
"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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