If US is a "Christian Nation" what brand is it?

Cliven Bundy says it is Mormon: Explainer: The Bundy Militia’s Particular Brand Of Mormonism

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Those views are intertwined with Bundy’s faith. Speaking in St. George, Utah, after the standoff with the Bureau of Land Management, Bundy posed these questions to a crowd of mostly conservative Mormons, as reported by the Spectrum of St. George:

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If our (U.S.) Constitution is an inspired document by our Lord Jesus Christ, then isn’t it scripture? Bundy asked.

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Yes, a chorus of voices replied.

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Isn’t it the same as the Book of Mormon and the Bible? Bundy asked.

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Absolutely, the audience answered.

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A New Generation Of Mormon Extremism

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David Ammon Bundy — Cliven’s father — relocated the family to Nevada in the 1940s. Cliven named his third son, Ammon, after his father. Ammon is also a figure in the Mormon faith, described as a great servant in LDS scripture.

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Note that the central LDS church does not agree with the Bundy clan version, so they are a branch, fundamentalist extreme faction.So are they right that the US is a Mormon inspired nation?Enjoy

WTF ????

Hi, RAZD.Mainstream Mormon beliefs do hold that the U.S. Constitution was inspired by God, which is not an unusual thing for an American church to believe.The idea that the Constitution therefore counts as 'scripture,' is somewhat... less mainstream. The argument "inspired by God, therefore scripture" is a common Mormon meme, but I think most Mormons still see a distinction between 'scripture' and 'Scripture^TM.'-----There are other stories in Mormon history that link the Constitution to the LDS Church in various ways. For example, one Mormon prophet, Wilford Woodruff, claimed that the founding fathers appeared to him in a vision, requesting that he conduct their temple ordinances by proxy for them (and censuring the Church for not having done that work yet). Of course, there are some problems with his claim, but it's a good example of how the LDS Church views the link between the 'one true religion' and the 'greatest nation on Earth.'Edited by Blue Jay, : typoEdited by Blue Jay, : other typo

Fundamentalist Mormons, now terrorizing an unmanned remote bird sanctuary ... because "god" told them to. With guns.To return public land to the people ...

This is not much different what Faith's always claiming and other evangelical Christian's. So who's right? Like Jar's god\God\GOD distinction? I would take from this that they would put (Mormon) "Scripture^TM" ahead of (constitution) "scripture" when there is a conflict, hence insurrection?Thanks

Hi, RAZD. None of them, I think. The US Constitution was an imperfect, though forward-thinking, document that allowed future generations to build this nation into something great (though still imperfect). Mythologizing it or trying to superimpose a divine will onto it is unjustifiable, in my opinion.If we had to choose one though, I'm sticking with Mormonism, because I've yet to overcome the social conditioning that has instilled a pro-Mormon bias in me.The LDS Church argues that the freedoms granted by the Bill of Rights paved the way for the Restoration of the Lord's True Church (which arguably couldn't have happened under other socio-political systems of the time). So, Mormonism is rather intimately linked with the Constitution in that regard. I suppose Faith would likely argue the same thing about her brand of Christianity: the Constitution and the Bill of Rights were necessary steps on the road to the emergence of the True Way.It would be rather more difficult for the Catholics or Lutherans (to name a few) to make the same claim. Yeah, I borrowed Jar's terminology a little there.And, you'd probably get a lot of Mormon objections that claim that there are no conflicts between the Scriptures and the Constitution, because they both c8me from the same source.Mormonism might have a somewhat better claim to this than other churches, simply because the people in the Book of Mormon are very (suspiciously?) American-like in their championing of freedom and human rights (such as the Captain Moroni mentioned in the news article you linked to); while the Bible is... somewhat less clear in its support of democratic principles.

Perhaps because it came after (1820's) the constitution and bill of rights?

Are you sure thats the LDS church and not the LSD Church?

I don't think Faith would argue that. As I hear her, she believes that people have consistently held the same views as her for the last 2,000 years - the early Christians; various sects deemed as heretics after the Roman church polluted Christ's message, and then some of the non-conformists and Protestant reformers - all forming an unbroken chain to today's True Christians.I'm sure she can speak for herself, but that's how I saw her views anyway.

Most U.S. Christians coalesce around the Mammon Temple.

Supreme court justice Scalia is Catholic, and seems to be a theocrat. And there are several other Catholics on the court.

Absolutely not a Mormon nation. Mormonism was ran out of the Eastern United States. Lol, Joseph Smith, the self-proclaimed prophet was killed in a shootout. That's how much he was viewed as a dangerous heretic

That's an understatement of sorts.The court is currently made up of six Catholics and 3 Jews.

But that's just their cover; really they are gay mormon muslims.

You can't get any more American than that.