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Message 10 of 2887 (767917)
09-03-2015 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Faith
09-03-2015 11:59 AM


Faith writes:
It's merely fanciful imagination that invents time periods to explain them.
Well, you are the queen of fanciful imagination. You imagine an imaginary flood and imagine that the fossils are in an imaginary order and imagine that the imaginary flood both deposited layers and eroded them.
Reality does not happen the way you imagine.
A very careful study of the order would have to show no rational order at all.
If you had ever done a careful study of the order you would know without any doubt that the order of the fossils is completely consistent with the explanation of modern science. All the evidence shows that the strata have been deposited and eroded over many millions of years and that lower layers are older than overlying layers.
You have been shown all this in numerous threads, but you continue to deny reality and cling to your children's story like a child that will not admit there is no Santa Claus.
You have no way of knowing, you just make assumptions
We have the evidence and they lead to inescapable conclusions.
You already said in other threads that your bible stories trump reality, so why are you bothering to continue arguing? We know your argument and are unconvinced.
Evolution. We have the fossils. We win!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 22 of 2887 (767958)
09-03-2015 9:40 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by Faith
09-03-2015 7:59 PM


Faith writes:
Not one single post here has offered evidence or reasoned argumentation for anything. Mine has actually done more in that direction than any other.
I don't think you have Faith. This is a science forum and you refer to the biblical flood. There is no evidence in the bible, just a mythical story about events that we know did not happen.
Faith the evidence gathered from all over the earth for the last 200 years by tens of thousands of geologists and geology students, plus, PLUS, the paleontologists, the oceanographers, the geographers, the volcanologists, the chemists, the physicists and astrophysicists, PLUS, all of the biological fields, PLUS, a bunch more groups of specialists that have all contributed to the knowledge of the history of the earth, all that evidence, EVERY SINGLE SCRAP OF EVIDENCE, supports an old earth and a branching pattern of life that is inter-related and evolving.
Nothing refutes it.
Faith writes:
I'd like to see someone actually PROVE that the order of the fossils supports evolution.
Well, you have already made it clear that no amount of proof would convince you.
Two books that I read many years ago are wonderful for their detailed descriptions of fossils and following the evolution of individual traits through successive species.
Invertebrate Fossils, by Raymond C. Moore, Cecil G. Lalicker, and Alfred G. Fischer, 768p, 1952, McGraw-Hill.
Evolution of the Vertebrates, by Edwin H. Colbert, 479p, 1955, John Wiley & Sons.
These are old books and we have added libraries of data about the earth and life since they were written.
What I am saying to you is, all these scientists, in all these sciences, in all these years, have been increasing and refining and scrutinizing, analyzing, finding mistakes, correcting mistakes in the data.
The inescapable conclusion is the earth is very, very old and so is life and it has been evolving ever since it appeared. The modern framework of science has no anomalies in our history of the earth and life.
I am not saying that there is nothing that we don't know, I am saying that everything we DO know is consistent and agrees across all those fields. Not one single piece of evidence, out of all the evidence I have been talking about, make scientists go, "wait just a minute, this evidence obviously supports the biblical flood and Genisis."
There is no body of scientific work that refutes that the fossils completely support the Theory of Evolution.
Edited by Tanypteryx, : grammer

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 24 of 2887 (767966)
09-03-2015 10:37 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by Faith
09-03-2015 10:09 PM


Faith writes:
as long as tge few best bits of evidence are emphasized over and over and the difficult areas are sidestepped,
You are right about something......we really are pleased by the best bits of evidence! And we will never get tired of pointing them out.
You are completely wrong that there are only a few. The total number of what we call best bits is huge. What incredible good luck that we have found so many.
the difficult areas are sidestepped,
What are these "difficult areas"?
And how are they being side-stepped?
There have been literally hundreds of "difficult areas" pointed out with your story of how it all happened. You have side-stepped every single one of them, multiple times.
Faith writes:
You have no motive to see through it but it's pretty transparent to one who does.
If you did a good job of compiling and writing up the evidence you would be guaranteed a Nobel Prize. That is a pretty good motive. Could even be a sweep, physics, chemistry and biology. (I guess we would have to shoehorn biology into Physiology or Medicine).

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 45 of 2887 (768011)
09-04-2015 2:29 PM


New Dolphin Fossil
New dolphin fossil makes a splash
New fossils keep being discovered all the time. The picture gets more and more complex and at the same time sharper and sharper.
What a wonderful time for science and scientists!

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

  
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Message 48 of 2887 (768024)
09-04-2015 5:56 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by mike the wiz
09-04-2015 5:01 PM


I have no idea what information your odd list is supposed to convey about evolution or creation.
mike the wiz writes:
Proxylastodoris kuscheli Beetle. (40-50 million) --was believed extinct until recently--
What does (45-50 million) mean? Was believed extinct by who? References please.
Proxylastodoris kuscheli is not a beetle. Beetles belong to Order Coleoptera. This insect belongs to Order Hemiptera.
Your post seems to be a drive-by, scattergun, Gish Gallop, but I'd have to say you are shooting blanks because it is mostly incoherent.
What is your list suppossed to represent?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 53 of 2887 (768033)
09-04-2015 8:52 PM
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09-04-2015 6:59 PM


Whole cloth.
Now that you are responding, he'll wrap it round his head.
A whole cloth blindfold.....

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 61 of 2887 (768163)
09-08-2015 3:54 PM
Reply to: Message 46 by mike the wiz
09-04-2015 5:01 PM


mikey writes:
Dragonflies. (can't find a date, but they were a lot bigger but that's all, I guess the Carboniferous)
The earliest fossil of a proto-odonate is mouthparts dated at 404 million ybp. I don't have a reference for this but could probably find it.
There are fossils of several dragonflies that are larger than any species alive today, but there are also many, many, fossils that are within the size range of living species.
My favorite is Meganeura monyi seen here compared to a modern species that is common across much of North America and is considered one of the larger living species.
mikey writes:
Well Dr A, you make a statement, "we have the fossils", I assume that means more than a handful, and it means you can show the evolution of an interior scapular girdle to the rib-cage, in turtles from an exterior girdle, by showing the transitionals for all pre-turtles and how that change could occur because of the disjunct? Does this mean you have all of the transitionals for pre-Pterosaurs, pre-bats, pre-spiders, pre-seahorses, pre-Ichthyosaurs, pre-Jellyfish? How about ancestors from terrestrial quadrupeds to arboreal bipeds? Got any to show? I doubt it.
Here is the list I have accumulated of all of the stasis, please note the term, "evolutionary stasis" is the biggest oxymoron in history. "changing stasis". Lol!
It would be great if someday we actually got a creationist who knows what they are talking about and understands evolution, not some made up caricature of it. But then, if they understood it they wouldn't be creationists anymore.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 88 of 2887 (768614)
09-12-2015 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 71 by ICANT
09-12-2015 11:37 AM


ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
Faith the evidence gathered from all over the earth for the last 200 years by tens of thousands of geologists and geology students, plus, PLUS, the paleontologists, the oceanographers, the geographers, the volcanologists, the chemists, the physicists and astrophysicists, PLUS, all of the biological fields, PLUS, a bunch more groups of specialists that have all contributed to the knowledge of the history of the earth, all that evidence, EVERY SINGLE SCRAP OF EVIDENCE, supports an old earth and a branching pattern of life that is inter-related and evolving.
Nothing refutes it.
Let me give it a go.
There was an extended light period that ended at Genesis 1:2 with darkness.
There is no way anyone can determine the duration of this light period.
This is a science thread. What you think Genesis says is not relevant to this discussion.
ICANT writes:
During this light period in which the earth began to exist and had no oceans. The following things took place.
The heavens began to exist.
The earth began to exist.
All the oil, and natural gas in the earth began to exist.
Mankind began to exist.
Trees and vegetation began to exist.
All kinds of creatures began to exist
None of this has anything to do with science or what we have learned from studying the fossils.
ICANT writes:
Evidence:
"The universe has not always existed". Steven Hawkings.
Where and when did Stephen Hawking say that? And, so what?
How is what Hawking said evidence that refutes, the scientific discoveries of millions of scientists over the last 2oo years?
ICANT writes:
Fossils in and on mountains require them to have been covered with water.
No, they don't. We know that fossils of marine organisms that are found in mountains were deposited in oceans as sedimentary layers and millions of years later those layers were thrust up by plate tectonics to become mountains.
ICANT writes:
The fossils that has been presented in this and many other threads on this site. Prove that there has been many creatures who have began to exist and then ceased to exist.
Yes, we know that sometimes when organisms die, sometimes they become fossils. We also know that many of the fossils that have been discovered are from species that are now extinct.
In what way do you think this refutes the conclusions of science that the earth is very old, that the diversity of life is the product of evolution, and that the fossils support these conclusions?
ICANT writes:
The sudden appearances of specific fossils in the fossil record.
In what way do you think this refutes the conclusions of science that the earth is very old, that the diversity of life is the product of evolution, and that the fossils support these conclusions?
What specific fossils are you talking about?
ICANT writes:
The fact that no one knows how life on earth began to exist.
The fact that no one knows how the universe began to exist.
How does what we don't know refute what we do know? Are you suggesting that if we don't know everything, we don't know anything?
We know a lot about life from the past as well as the present.
We know a lot about the Universe, especially the past since it is huge and what we see is limited by the speed of light.
ICANT, like it or not, humans are curious and we invented a self-correcting methodology of learning about the past of our planet, and life, as well as the Universe. We will continue to observe and experiment and test our understanding and conclusions.
The bible and religion are not contributing much, if anything, to that understanding and those conclusions

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 99 of 2887 (768675)
09-12-2015 10:01 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by ICANT
09-12-2015 2:21 PM


ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
This is a science thread. What you think Genesis says is not relevant to this discussion.
Do you believe or think the universe began to exist in an absence of light?
For the life of me I do not understand why you asked these questions. I agree with Admin., questions about what I believe or think about the universe have nothing to do with the fossil record.
ICANT writes:
OK lets say the universe exist.
That means we can have fossils.
Because mankind began to exist we can have human fossils.
Because all kinds of creature's began to exist we can have all kinds of fossils in our museum's.
Because the trees and vegetation began to exist we can have the oil, natural gas, and coal we have today, in which fossils are found, which is one reason it is called fossil fuels.
So?
ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
Where and when did Stephen Hawking say that? And, so what?
In his Lecture 'The Beginning of Time'.
" All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning"
Thanks for being so specific.
ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
How is what Hawking said evidence that refutes, the scientific discoveries of millions of scientists over the last 2oo years?
He is one of the top of scientists of that 200 years.
Yes, he is. In fact one of the greatest minds of our time.
That does not answer my question. What does your Hawking quote have to do with the scientific discoveries of millions of scientists over the last 2oo years?
ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
No, they don't. We know that fossils of marine organisms that are found in mountains were deposited in oceans as sedimentary layers and millions of years later those layers were thrust up by plate tectonics to become mountains.
Lets see: the fossils of water creatures were buried under layers of sediment. Did they not have to be in water and covered up?
That means those mountains were covered with water at one time.
I already said that, but when the layers that make up the mountains were underwater was millions of years before they became mountains.
ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
In what way do you think this refutes the conclusions of science that the earth is very old, that the diversity of life is the product of evolution, and that the fossils support these conclusions?
It doesn't refute that the earth is very old.
It does refute evolution, as the fossils do not support evolution. There is no gradual change shown in the fossil record. There is the fact that the record shows that at many times there appeared completely new creatures on the earth.
I had to go back and read my question in Message 88.
ICANT in message 88 writes:
ICANT writes:
The fossils that has been presented in this and many other threads on this site. Prove that there has been many creatures who have began to exist and then ceased to exist.
Yes, we know that sometimes when organisms die, sometimes they become fossils. We also know that many of the fossils that have been discovered are from species that are now extinct.
You say there is no gradual change recorded in the fossil record, but that is incorrect. If you search EvC for Foraminifera, you will see discussion of well-documented fossil sequences that show continuous gradual change.
The fossil record is not complete and some fossils show up or disappear in various layers. Other fossils show sequences with ancestors and descendants.
The theory of evolution does not state that evolution is or must always be slow and gradual. There are many cases where evolution is rapid.
Scientists spend their lives trying to understand the Universe or the earth or life in the context of their specialty. They also test their knowledge and specialty for consilience with other branches of science. Our goal is to refute any parts of our knowledge that we discover is incorrect.
ICANT writes:
The sudden appearances of specific fossils in the fossil record.
ICANT writes:
Tanypteryx writes:
What specific fossils are you talking about?
Completely new creatures who had not existed before.
That is not specific. Scientific names are specific.
Look, the gaps in the fossil record are not evidence that evolution does not happen. Sudden appearance or disappearance in the fossil record are not evidence that evolution does not happen.
They are also not evidence for a creator either.
The fossil record is evidence that life has changed dramatically over the course of the history of life and as a whole it is great evidence for evolution.
Specific parts of the fossil record give us exquisitely precise, high-resolution details of the evolution of organisms, that only someone with their eyes shut tight and their ears plugged can ignore.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 104 of 2887 (768718)
09-13-2015 1:09 PM
Reply to: Message 103 by RAZD
09-13-2015 11:50 AM


Re: the temporal spacial matrix & biogeography
A database of fossils arranged in time and space. The temporal\geographical relationship between fossils is probably more important than the individual bones, as that is what shows the trends in both time and location that would pertain if evolution were true and which would not pertain if evolution were false -- that is why every single fossil is a test of evolutionary theory.
This is why archaeologists and paleontologists and geologists take such pains to document location, date, and the relationship of fossils to one another.
When you couple all this data with all the specific details about each individual fossil that are compiled from careful examination, often by multiple experts and students you have a database that is dynamic. It changes and grows with each new find.
The internet and rapid communication along with digital photos and video are transforming what used to be field and lab into an instant, always on, network of knowledge, sharing, and scrutiny. At the same time, a huge network dealing with living organisms has also emerged and is interacting with the fossil database. This would include genetics, taxonomy/cladistics, biogeography.
What Faith and ICANT totally fail to appreciate is the amount of scrutiny that all these fossils, and indeed, all the data and observations of science receive. They complain that the scientists never share their photos or that they never get to see the fossils and on and on, but that is just laziness on their part. They will not bother to read and learn to understand the actual papers. We have heard Faith whine numerous times that she does not understand what is in the papers and then go right ahead and pontificate as though knows what she is talking about. She rarely fails to note that all the scientists are part of a conspiracy and mind set that is blinding them to the truth that she sees, yet she has never held a fossil in her hand, and looked at it from every angle under a microscope, and compared it to other fossils, and compared it to the morphology of living organisms, and looked at the coordinates where it was found, and the relationship to other related finds.
Another thing that creationists completely fail to be aware of is that students are continuously entering the field and they don't take an oath of fealty to prior knowledge. They might pursue research of a subject where they do not know the all the scientists who have worked in the field. If they can refute someone else's work, they can make a name for themselves. Making your own or new discoveries is what every student and scientist strives toward.
If evolution was not the correct conclusion from all this study it would have been overthrown long before now, by scientists. If creationism was the correct conclusion every scientist would know it and their data from every study would demonstrate it.
Edited by Tanypteryx, : spelling

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 132 of 2887 (769504)
09-21-2015 6:53 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by Faith
09-21-2015 6:28 PM


Re: Reptiles to Mammals
Faith writes:
But this can be deceptive. Common traits would of course have common DNA because the finished house follows the plan. Similar plans, similar houses. But descent from one to another cannot be known from these comparisons.
The only deception here is implying that DNA is similar to human constructed house plans.
Faith, I know you have been told about Endogenous Retroviruses (ERVs) in past discussions. Comparisons of these viral elements in the genome can indeed show which species are most closely related and at what level in the descent tree their common ancestors occupy.
Wikipedia has a good discussion at: Endogenous retrovirus They also list 42 references.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 310 of 2887 (774105)
12-13-2015 10:55 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 10:39 AM


The globalists are the people who have all the money and the power (aka the elite). They decide if you get a prize or not, they decide if you get paid or not, they decide if your discovery is worthy or not. Don't you get this?
Do you know any of their names?
They must be really busy if they do all those things.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 318 of 2887 (774121)
12-13-2015 1:34 PM
Reply to: Message 317 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 1:15 PM


And if the globalists are doing such a terrible job why can't I get you guys to believe in giants?
Oh, good one, I had never thought of that.
So the lack of evidence is evidence for both globalists and giants.
Maybe the globalists ARE giants. Did you ever think of that?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 326 of 2887 (774140)
12-13-2015 4:39 PM
Reply to: Message 325 by Big_Al35
12-13-2015 4:10 PM


You do know the globalists are masters of mind-control?
Well of course! We all know that. The only time I take off my foil helmet is when I am sleeping.
Are you and your forum buddies just one massive entity? You all share the same views and opinions? What kind of group think is this?
What does any of this have to do with fossils being absolute evidence for evolution? Do you have anything to say about that?

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python
One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie
If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

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Message 394 of 2887 (776012)
01-07-2016 3:18 PM
Reply to: Message 389 by Big_Al35
01-07-2016 4:12 AM


Big_Al35 writes:
Thanks guys ... I think I did miss something of the list. So at number 8 we have;
Once the victim has volunteered, proposed or offered you can then go on the offensive with
1) It doesn't exist
2) It's fake
3) Nit pick the minutiae of their posts and attempt to tear it apart.
4) I don't know what you're talking about
5) You are a buffoon or stark raving mad.
6) Launch personal attacks.
7) Turn the whole debate into a debacle using comedy, innuendo, false flags and strawman tactics.
8) In all your dealings with the victim behave like a robot. Show no emotion and abide by your programming, that is to say, 'the computer says NO'.
I don't know but maybe this would be 9) Ask questions like:
A) Where can we find documented fossils of rock moving giants; in museums, university collections, Smithsonian, private collections, etc.?
B) Have any papers about giant human fossils been published in magazines or journals? Are there any books about them?
C) How did you find out about the giants?
D) Is there evidence in the human genome that humans and giants interbred? Could modern day giants be hiding in plain sight?
E) Are the Globalists really Giants? (That would explain why Globalists are suppressing all news about Giants.)
Edited by Tanypteryx, : added a question

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