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Author | Topic: The Bundys and the Armed Occupation of a National Wildlife Refuge | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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Why is peaceful better? There is nothing pleasing about the thought of decades in jail. Living in a physical body without living in any real sense is much worse than violence. If I knew they were capturing me to haul me off to a life of prison, I would put a bullet in my brain. You are free to make that choice. The point is to not make them martyrs for the militia idiological folks. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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In recent days, The Bodacious Bundy Bros. traveled out of state to recruit more ranchers to stop paying grazing leases.
They've paved a road through ancestral Paiute lands. They've ransacked federal personnel records. The founder of the Oath Keepers has warned the government not to "Waco" the occupiers unless it wants a "bloody brutal civil war." What to do, what to do? After surfing some right-wing sites, I suggest a few flyovers that use the mind control chemtrail technology the feds keep under wraps. "If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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After surfing some right-wing sites, I suggest a few flyovers that use the mind control chemtrail technology the feds keep under wraps. And drones, lots of drones, especially those with the high pitched whine that sounds like a bee's nest, and especially at night. Use them to document every action. Rig them to drop teargas canisters if shot at. Play loud music 24/7. Put nail boards across the roads in and out. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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RAZD writes: Play loud music 24/7. I volunteer to make the mix tape. "If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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foreveryoung Member (Idle past 583 days) Posts: 921 Joined: |
Just release the brothers from prison. Isn't that what this thing is all about?
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vimesey Member Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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The idea that you could get the government of a democratic country to override a decision of its judicial system, by staging an armed insurrection (however limited), is a tad dangerous, don't you think ?
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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DrJones* Member Posts: 2284 From: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Joined: Member Rating: 6.8
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Just release the brothers from prison.
Why? they did the crime, they should do the time (and it's a father and son). Giving in to terrorists is never a good idea.It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds soon I discovered that this rock thing was true Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world And so there was only one thing I could do Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On *not an actual doctor
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14174dm Member (Idle past 1109 days) Posts: 161 From: Cincinnati OH Joined:
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It's not about the brothers. This whole thing is about selfish people who want to make as much money as they can using communal property. The brothers were a thin excuse to act like big shots.
Funny how people ranting about the Constitution (IMHO the rule of LAW) ignore the legal process because it doesn't give them the answer they want. Don't they have a member of Congress to represent them? At least one in the House of Representatives and two in the Senate. Don't they have lobbying groups to represent them? Are they blocked from the Federal courts? So what do they do? They show up with guns and threaten violence. To me a major foundation of our nation is the rule of law not guns. Do they want to go down the road of a huge chunk of the Third World? Do they want a nation run by whoever has the most guns? Bundy keeps making statements about listening to the locals but they're still there after locals loudly told them, to their faces, to go away. The goofs keep inviting more armed strangers to this area. How would you react if armed strangers took over the house next door and publicly invited more random strangers (unknown even to the first group) to move in? I love the fact that the one guy drives into town for supplies in a government truck. Using tax payer gas and putting miles on a tax payer owned vehicle to save his own money. THAT'S what is important to these guys - THEIR money and THEIR fame They tear down a length of fence between the refuge and the neighboring ranch, Did they ask to rancher what he wanted? NO. Like a bunch of stupid teenagers, they tear apart something just to tear it apart. The rancher had to reinstall the fence himself. Edited by 14174dm, : No reason given. Edited by 14174dm, : No reason given.
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Tempe 12ft Chicken Member (Idle past 336 days) Posts: 438 From: Tempe, Az. Joined: |
ForeverYoung writes: Just release the brothers from prison. Isn't that what this thing is all about? The father and son (Dwight and Steven Hammond) have stated flatly that these individuals do not represent them, nor did they refuse to reenter prison and finish their sentences. According to the Hammonds, "W. Alan Schroeder writes: Neither Ammon Bundy nor anyone within his group/organization speak for the Hammond family," the Hammonds' attorney W. Alan Schroeder wrote to Harney County Sheriff David Ward. Source Currently, the Hammonds' goal is to quietly serve their sentences while attempting to get a presidential pardon since they had served time which was found to be below the mandatory minimum sentence for arson. According to another article:
OPB staff writes: Kendra M. Matthews, a lawyer for the Hammonds, said Monday that the father and son will ask President Barack Obama to pardon them. They were convicted of arson for setting fires on federal land in 2001 and 2006 and served some prison time. SourceThe theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a person’s body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4344 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.9
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The bubbas claim to have deep pockets supporting them. Hopefully, they are keeping accurate accounts for tax purposes. The real danger from a public standpoint would be legislative changes by a Republican-controlled Congress and Whitehouse, putting public land in private hands. Oregon standoff leader warns feds: Back off
I find myself wondering why the Bubbas were not arrested at this public meeting in the high school gym? I assume they were not armed in the meeting, but then again, these are extremist gun nuts. Oregon standoff: Anger, frustration boil over at community meeting Some history of some of the big ranches in the region. Timber Oligarchs Transform Into Beef Barons in Harney County and the Oregon High Desert Why the Bubbas shouldn't be considered terrorist, or maybe they should. It’s definitely not terrorists at Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon, don’t worry! A quote from the Malheur NWR Facebook page quote: A lot is being written about the standoff but not much in so-called mainstream media. Rallies around the state dreww pretty large crowds yesterday despite crappy weather.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy |
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1405 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined:
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I volunteer to make the mix tape. And I suggest children's songs with lots of repetitions as the most appropriate ... Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3 |
Tempe 12ft Chicken writes: Currently, the Hammonds' goal is to quietly serve their sentences while attempting to get a presidential pardon since they had served time which was found to be below the mandatory minimum sentence for arson. I expect the Bundys et al. have made that politically impossible."If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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RAZD writes: And I suggest children's songs with lots of repetitions as the most appropriate ... I'm afraid they'd like that too much. In 1989, U.S. forces used deafening music to persuade Noriega to surrender from sanctuary in the Apostolic Nunciature.
Wiki quote: Guns N' Roses suck, but The Clash and Tull were too good for Noriega. Still, it seemed to work, though the Holy See was not amused. I was thinking more along the lines of what the occupiers would find most distasteful: some serious hip-hop, perhaps, featuring Who Let The Dogs Out (Baha Men); definitely all of Straight Outta Compton (N.W.A). For racial balance, maybe mix in some Morrissey, who could whine anyone into submission; a few hours of ear-splitting, outta-tune-flat Cher could work, too. Hell, throw in some Gogol Bordello and The Klezmatics. Black, gay, Native American, Gypsy and Jewish: these guys hate difference. They'll crack overnight. While writing this, your idea grew on me. Hours of Big Bird and Barney would drive anyone into the slough of despair. Really, I'd appreciate any federal effort, any at all."If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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jar Member (Idle past 394 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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One word; "Chipmunks"
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Omnivorous Member Posts: 3978 From: Adirondackia Joined: Member Rating: 7.3
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We wanna drive 'em out, not push all of Oregon into open rebellion.
"If you can keep your head while those around you are losing theirs, you can collect a lot of heads." Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto.-Terence
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