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Author | Topic: The Bundys and the Armed Occupation of a National Wildlife Refuge | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Theodoric Member Posts: 9142 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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Some issues with the media portrayal. It was not an ambush. It was a law enforcement operation to arrest armed and dangerous people. law enforcement did it in a way to lessen the chance of violence. All eyewitness reports indicate that Lavoy Finicum did not die with his hands up.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Actually, the Grant County sheriff, Glen Palmer is a supporter of the Bundys as is the Baker County Sheriff Travis Ash. Ash is also a posse comitatus wingnut. This does not surprise me, and it explains the hands-off policy of local officials. It seems a lot of police officers and comand\management people are aligned with questionable associations -- see
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
First rule of an occupation is that you've got to actually occupy the place, rather than just calling dibs on it. You mean like this?
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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One great aspect to this whole circus is a bunch of radical gun nuts have voluntarily given up their right to own firearms for the rest of their lives....not just nuts, but stupid nuts.
What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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On the other hand, they are gonna occupy a federal building for as long as they like.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2
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No. They will occupy said federal building as long as the court says they have to.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 305 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
... possibly a little bit longer.
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AZPaul3 Member Posts: 8527 From: Phoenix Joined: Member Rating: 5.2 |
Bundy asks occupiers to stand down. More arrests while others leave.
End of the occupation? There are still hundreds of armed wackaloons in Burns and the surrounding area. Will they stand down? Here's hoping.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1426 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Bundy asks occupiers to stand down. More arrests while others leave.
End of the occupation? Guess they'll have to roll up their pants ... "Not with a bang, but a whimper ... " by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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ringo Member (Idle past 433 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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AZPaul3 writes:
My guess is that they'll be only too eager to use any excuse to declare a "moral victory" and run away.
There are still hundreds of armed wackaloons in Burns and the surrounding area. Will they stand down?
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Diomedes Member Posts: 995 From: Central Florida, USA Joined:
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My guess is that they'll be only too eager to use any excuse to declare a "moral victory" and run away. Might look something like this:
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
ringo writes: My guess is that they'll be only too eager to use any excuse to declare a "moral victory" and run away. My guess is they will just declare "Victory" and run away.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4
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This could turn out to be a win-win. The FBI gets to experiment with different tactics dealing with real domestic anti-government terrorists (or zombie apocalypse) and build a more detailed list of all these nutjobs. The next time they try to buy a legal firearm, shahzam, they fail the background check, the next time they want to fly, shahzam, no fly list. Next time they want a government handout, shahzam, sorry no money for you. etc., etc.
'Thousands' called to Burns to tell FBI to leave after occupation leader's arrestWhat if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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ramoss Member (Idle past 633 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
someone beat me to it.
Edited by ramoss, : No reason given.
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Hyroglyphx Inactive Member |
My guess is that the federal government is afraid of unwittingly martyring these people. There was such bad publicity with Ruby Ridge and Waco, the government probably is trying to avoid that at all costs because these people use cases like that to justify their current actions.
If the Feds were smart, they would surround the building and starve them out. Stop allowing them to run trips to the friggin' store! Cut off their supply and you end the struggle. Whether they come out shooting or not is on them, but as long as it is documented through video, it will be harder for them to say that the government initiated the force versus responding with force commensurate with their actions. Edited by Hyroglyphx, : No reason given."Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine
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