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Author Topic:   The Bundys and the Armed Occupation of a National Wildlife Refuge
NoNukes
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Message 121 of 254 (777318)
01-29-2016 1:55 AM
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01-29-2016 1:31 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
If the Feds were smart, they would surround the building and starve them out.
I think that is pretty much what the feds are now doing. Some of the holdouts are realizing that they may have missed an opportunity to go home.
quote:
Why can’t I get in my vehicle and drive home like I’ve done four other times since I got here?said Sean Anderson, 47, of Riggins, Idaho, who was at the refuge along with wife
That's a pretty silly thing to say, but according to the article I'm reading quite a few of the remaining occupiers don't understand why they cannot just go home.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 122 of 254 (777323)
01-29-2016 4:01 AM
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01-29-2016 1:55 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
quote:
Why can’t I get in my vehicle and drive home like I’ve done four other times since I got here?said Sean Anderson, 47, of Riggins, Idaho, who was at the refuge along with wife
Wow... That really highlights how disconnected they are from reality. I imagine a hostile takeover of a government building could land them, at a minimum, 3-5 years in a federal penitentiary.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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jar
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Message 123 of 254 (777333)
01-29-2016 8:03 AM
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01-29-2016 4:01 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
And since they were part of a group action it's likely they can individually be held accountable for any actions of the groups. Just driving the getaway car in a bank robbery is not a lesser offense.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 124 of 254 (777335)
01-29-2016 8:47 AM
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01-29-2016 8:03 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
And since they were part of a group action it's likely they can individually be held accountable for any actions of the groups. ...
And because the felonies were committed with the use of guns they will now fail background checks.
Which raises the question whether they can legally posses weapons.
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NoNukes
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Message 125 of 254 (777337)
01-29-2016 9:02 AM
Reply to: Message 122 by Hyroglyphx
01-29-2016 4:01 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
I imagine a hostile takeover of a government building could land them, at a minimum, 3-5 years in a federal penitentiary.
That's about right. As a couple of people have pointed out, some of these guys may well accomplish their goal of occupying federal property until the Hammonds are freed from prison.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)
History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King
If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams

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Tanypteryx
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Message 126 of 254 (777345)
01-29-2016 11:20 AM
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01-29-2016 8:47 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
Which raises the question whether they can legally posses weapons.
If they are convicted felons I would think not. A silver lining. As long as they don't let them plea-bargain their way out of this. Hopefully they will be charged with more than they have been arrested on.

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AZPaul3
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Message 127 of 254 (777348)
01-29-2016 12:23 PM


Ironic Justice
What will be most interesting to me is, once the feds clear out the buildings and confiscate what the traitors left behind, what are they going to do with the dildos, personal lubricants and penis gummies?
I think they ought to put it all up for auction, one gummie dick at a time.
And then use the proceeds to buy up the surrounding ranch land to add to the refuge.
Edited by AZPaul3, : title

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JonF
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Message 128 of 254 (777372)
01-29-2016 9:17 PM
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01-29-2016 12:23 PM


Re: Ironic Justice
They burned the dildos.

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AZPaul3
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Message 129 of 254 (777374)
01-29-2016 9:44 PM
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01-29-2016 9:17 PM


Re: Ironic Justice
Well, there's another federal offence we can get them on. Those dildos were sent to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge. I'll bet the packaging even has the Malheur address on them. They are government property.
Burned them, you say.
Cruel and heartless. Do these people not realize there are entire communities of real Americans across this land that still suffer grave deficiencies in adult sex toys?
That's terrorism.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 130 of 254 (777388)
01-30-2016 2:14 AM
Reply to: Message 123 by jar
01-29-2016 8:03 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
Yeah, they may end RICOing anyone involved.

"Reason obeys itself; and ignorance submits to whatever is dictated to it" -- Thomas Paine

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 131 of 254 (777389)
01-30-2016 2:15 AM
Reply to: Message 124 by RAZD
01-29-2016 8:47 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
And because the felonies were committed with the use of guns they will now fail background checks.
Which raises the question whether they can legally posses weapons.
Nope, they forfeited that right.

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Hyroglyphx
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Message 132 of 254 (777390)
01-30-2016 2:17 AM
Reply to: Message 129 by AZPaul3
01-29-2016 9:44 PM


Re: Ironic Justice
Clearly the terrorists have won

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Tanypteryx
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Message 133 of 254 (777403)
01-30-2016 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 127 by AZPaul3
01-29-2016 12:23 PM


Re: Ironic Justice
What will be most interesting to me is, once the feds clear out the buildings and confiscate what the traitors left behind, what are they going to do with the dildos, personal lubricants and penis gummies?
The gummy dicks will be consumed by the time it's all over, but Malheur occupiers: ‘All of us out or all dead’
quote:
Sean Anderson, who is at the site with his wife, Sandy, and two others, says: We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.
Sean Anderson, who is from Riggins, Idaho, goes on to say that he and the other occupiers are heroes. Think about the Bible and all the heroes came from the bottom. We were just four drunks, we don’t have any military experience, and now we’re the shining stars, he said.
This has turned into pure entertainment.

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RAZD
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Message 134 of 254 (777405)
01-30-2016 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Tanypteryx
01-29-2016 11:20 AM


Re: practice anti-domestic terrorist training
If they are convicted felons I would think not. A silver lining. As long as they don't let them plea-bargain their way out of this. Hopefully they will be charged with more than they have been arrested on.
Presumably a grand jury will be convened to determine if the evidence is sufficient to proceed with trials, and they could consider a number of different charges not in the works yet -- as in the grand jury in texas returned indictments of the Planned Parenthood video hoaxters/frauds.
Should be interesting.
Enjoy.

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AZPaul3
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Message 135 of 254 (777409)
01-30-2016 2:13 PM
Reply to: Message 133 by Tanypteryx
01-30-2016 12:40 PM


Re: Ironic Justice
We’re waiting for our miracle. If this doesn’t wake America up, I don’t know what will.
I wonder what he thinks the American people are supposed to wake up to.
Maybe that we have domestic terrorists and traitors that need to be rolled out on a gurney? I thing we already know that.

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