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Author Topic:   New Survey -- what is your Worldview type?
AZPaul3
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Message 31 of 50 (777718)
02-06-2016 3:01 PM
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02-06-2016 12:56 PM


I'm at work and such things are not allowed but if you have a Screen Grab program or a Screen Snip utility that would be the way to grab the table as an image and place it where ever like any other picture.

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Message 32 of 50 (777719)
02-06-2016 3:02 PM
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02-06-2016 12:56 PM


Figure 1 from PDF
--Percy

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Message 33 of 50 (777721)
02-06-2016 5:12 PM
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02-06-2016 12:29 PM


So then Daft Hippy is the "Integrative" worldview that apparently these researchers want us all to adopt.
Lefty Activist must be Postmodernism?
That's my facetious way of classing their categories yes. Based on the mpdf you posted, it seems they see the 'integrative' (daft hippy) viewpoint as the progression to the future ('post-postmoderism'), but I haven't taken the time to read it properly.

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Message 34 of 50 (777722)
02-06-2016 5:17 PM
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02-05-2016 5:32 PM


I gave up on question 18. That's the one where they asked for an email address.
Well I have an email address that I keep for spam and webpage polls etc.
I can then look at the results and ignore all the penis enlargement emails

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anglagard
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Message 35 of 50 (777726)
02-06-2016 8:11 PM
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02-05-2016 12:59 PM


Integrative
Not surprised.
Worldview you identify with most: Integrative (8)
Worldview you identify with least: (0)
quote:
Integrative worldviews appear to be primarily characterized by a self-reflexive attempt to bring together and synthesize elements of other worldviews, or of domains that in other worldviews tend to be viewed as mutually exclusive, such as science (or rationality) and spirituality, imagination and logic, heart and mind, humanity and natureperspectives that in the West have been in conflict for centuries. In this worldview, such opposing perspectives are frequently understood to be part of a greater whole or synthesison a deeper levelresulting in both-and rather than either-or thinking. Such a holistic or integrative perspective may lead to a profound sense of connection with nature, and an understanding of earthly life itself as imbued with a larger consciousness or Spirit. Universal, existential concernssuch as life and death, self-actualization, global awareness, and serving society, hum anity, or even life at largeare often of central importance.
California (1957-1979), New Mexico (1979-1996) Some of it is about time and place. {abe} in my personal experience.
Still agree questions were a bit biased and weird.
Edited by anglagard, : Also replaced a lot with some to make statement more realistic.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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Message 36 of 50 (777728)
02-06-2016 9:13 PM
Reply to: Message 31 by AZPaul3
02-06-2016 3:01 PM


Thanks for the response. Does the Print Screen button do anything useful, in case this comes up again?

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Message 37 of 50 (777729)
02-06-2016 9:14 PM
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02-06-2016 3:02 PM


Re: Figure 1 from PDF
Thank you for posting that. Now I have to remember why I wanted it. I'm sure it will come back to me.

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Message 38 of 50 (777730)
02-06-2016 9:16 PM
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02-06-2016 5:12 PM


I didn't get to finish their basic paper yet, but I agree with you about Daft Hippy and probably Lefty Activist too.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 39 of 50 (777731)
02-06-2016 9:18 PM
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02-06-2016 8:11 PM


Re: Integrative
Interesting. So you and Phat are among the most highly evolved according to their view of cultural stages. And of course I'm the least evolved with my Traditional worldview. I wonder what it means on their scheme that I used to be Modernist -- just that I regressed I suppose.
By saying that place influenced your worldview do you happen to mean that you were where New Age concepts are most emphasized?
How did you get zero for the worldview you identify with least? By not choosing anything? If so, why didn't you?
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Message 40 of 50 (777732)
02-06-2016 9:48 PM


Figure 1
Not really sure why this fascinates me so much. The idea of ranking ideas, stages of cognitive development, worldviews, has always interested me, but my reaction is so negative to this effort I'm not sure why I keep pursuing it, or the reason must be that I'd like to see this sort of research shown up as the impossible -- and arrogant, and possibly even dangerous -- thing it really is.
They do seem to be trying to be neutral but there's no way anyone could be completely neutral with this kind of subject matter. They come off to me as New Ager / Leftists trying to be objective and failing at it.
I think the chart shows their biases.
But I'm not up to analyzing the whole thing right now. If someone else wants to, go for it.
All I'd say at this point is that M L King was not postmodern, in many ways was a genuine traditionalist I think, and neither Pope Francis nor Rick Warren are traditionalists, at least not purely traditionalists. I think the Pope is definitely Daft Hippy and Warren has a lot of postmodernism in his thinking. But then I don't think the researchers understand much of anything about religion.
Probably come back to this later.

  
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Message 41 of 50 (777754)
02-07-2016 5:26 PM
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02-06-2016 9:18 PM


Re: Integrative
Faith writes:
Interesting. So you and Phat are among the most highly evolved according to their view of cultural stages. And of course I'm the least evolved with my Traditional worldview. I wonder what it means on their scheme that I used to be Modernist -- just that I regressed I suppose.
All creatures currently alive are equally evolved to fit their niche if you are somehow referring to the TOE. As for sharing a supposed worldview with Phat, that's fine with me. Having many conversations with him back when chat was active, I know he is a lot sharper than some people think. He is also religious without being dogmatic, a quality some lack.
By saying that place influenced your worldview do you happen to mean that you were where New Age concepts are most emphasized?
Actually, one of the main reasons I left California was I was sick of new age claptrap along with vacuous Hollywood values. When I moved to New Mexico, I attended New Mexico Tech which offers no degree programs outside of the sciences and engineering other than math and has no sport programs - how refreshing.
What I mean is I grew up on a very diverse state that was ground zero in a major cultural shift in the USA. I was exposed to different worldviews, some just emerging, in my formative years than most US citizens are exposed to in a lifetime. As for New Mexico the experience was similar as the college attracted students worldwide to an even greater extent than the one I attended in California. Additionally it was 45% Hispanic with a culture dating back 400 years, and 10% American Indian, on top of that, which is another multi-culture in its own right.
I am not saying such experiences are unique to both states, just that I think it has a lot to do with being labelled integrative by this one goofy, biased, and unscientific test.
How did you get zero for the worldview you identify with least? By not choosing anything? If so, why didn't you?
I answered every question, that was the result. I thought most questions had multiple answers I could agree to but chose what I felt was a best fit to my current state of mind.

Read not to contradict and confute, not to believe and take for granted, not to find talk and discourse, but to weigh and consider. - Francis Bacon

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Message 42 of 50 (777756)
02-07-2016 6:04 PM


Moose - Postmodern (4), Traditional (-6)
For whatever it's worth:
quote:
Worldview Affinity Score:
Worldview you identify with most: Postmodern (4)
Worldview you identify with least: Traditional (-6)
These two worldviews are briefly described below. For more on the research behind this test, and on worldviews in general, please follow this link.
Postmodern worldviews
Postmodern worldviews are characterized by a tendency to acknowledge and value multiple perspectives on reality, and are generally critical of modern science's claim to exclusively provide objective knowledge. This worldview instead emphasizes the relativity and contextuality of knowledge, as well as the value of moral, emotional, and artistic ways of knowing. Frequently a somewhat critical attitude towards the modern model of society (e.g., ideas of progress, modern science and technology, capitalism) is observed, and the emancipation of marginalized and oppressed groups is a central motivation. This is for example reflected in the rise of social movements since the 1960’s, promoting peace, multiculturalism, gay rights, and the environment, among others. Generally, postmodern worldviews celebrate diversity, heterogeneity, relativism, and 'post-materialistic' or 'self-expression' values such as creativity, uniqueness, authenticity, imagination, feeling, and intuiti on.
Traditional worldviews
In traditional worldviews the religious sphere is generally not distinguished from the secular sphere, nor is metaphysics from science. Religious or metaphysical views on reality thus answer the big questions in life, and substantial faith is placed in religious authorities, such as scriptures, doctrines, and leaders. In this worldview, a transcendent God is usually seen as separate from the profane, earthly world, and man as fundamentally different from nature. The relationship with nature is frequently understood in terms of ‘dominion’ or ‘stewardship’. Traditional worldviews tend to emphasize the importance of family and community, as well as values ??such as honesty, decency, sobriety, obedience, discipline, solidarity, conformity, service, dedication, respect for tradition, humility, and self-sacrifice.
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Message 43 of 50 (777759)
02-07-2016 6:57 PM
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Re: Moose - Postmodern (4), Traditional (-6)
I'm glad to see a strong Postmodern showing, which many here seem to share although it hasn't been coming through on the test scores.

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Message 44 of 50 (777760)
02-07-2016 7:09 PM


Me: Postmodern (8), Traditional (-13)
'Nuff said.

  
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Message 45 of 50 (777762)
02-07-2016 9:42 PM
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02-06-2016 5:17 PM


Well I have an email address that I keep for spam and webpage polls etc.
I did consider creating a throw-away email address. But it did not seem to be worth the effort.

Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity

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