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Bob Bobber
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Message 91 of 280 (779908)
03-09-2016 10:42 AM
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03-09-2016 10:39 AM


Re: Poe Troll (God Haters)
The question that should be asked is, who talked these angels into doing what they did?

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ringo
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Message 92 of 280 (779909)
03-09-2016 10:47 AM
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03-09-2016 10:42 AM


Re: Poe Troll (God Haters)
Bob Bobber writes:
Re: Poe Troll (God Haters)
The question that should be asked is, who talked these angels into doing what they did?
Okay, answer that one.

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Message 93 of 280 (779911)
03-09-2016 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 89 by Bob Bobber
03-09-2016 9:12 AM


Re: The Earth for Israel. Heaven for the age of grace.
You've pretty much lost me now, Bob, so I'll probably just stay out of this from now on.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 94 of 280 (779912)
03-09-2016 11:21 AM
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03-09-2016 10:47 AM


When the earth was in the first heaven
Lucifer is the one who took over the earth with it was in the first heaven. Lucifer won, but for some unknown reason, Lucifer flooded out the earth.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 95 of 280 (779914)
03-09-2016 11:29 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by Faith
03-09-2016 11:09 AM


Re: The Earth for Israel. Heaven for the age of grace.
The Body of Christ is a reality only for the saints who came to Christ through Paul’s good news, and have nothing whosoever to do with the saints of the earthly kingdom calling.

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ringo
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Message 96 of 280 (779915)
03-09-2016 11:42 AM
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03-09-2016 11:21 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Lucifer is the one who took over the earth with it was in the first heaven. Lucifer won, but for some unknown reason, Lucifer flooded out the earth.
Who created Lucifer?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 97 of 280 (779916)
03-09-2016 11:47 AM
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03-09-2016 11:42 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
What was Lucifer created for?

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ringo
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Message 98 of 280 (779917)
03-09-2016 11:48 AM
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03-09-2016 11:47 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
What was Lucifer created for?
You're the one who believes in Lucifer. You tell me.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 99 of 280 (779918)
03-09-2016 11:56 AM
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03-09-2016 11:48 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Are you sure you are not Poe'in me around? Lucifer function put him in a unique position to force his creator to light the earth, nothing more. Lucifer won, but why did he flood the earth when it was in the first heaven. Maybe Lucifer was playing around with this -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtLXpgjHL0&feature=related

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ringo
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Message 100 of 280 (779919)
03-09-2016 12:06 PM
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03-09-2016 11:56 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Lucifer function put him in a unique position to force his creator to light the earth, nothing more.
How could Lucifer force God to do anything?
Edited by ringo, : spelling.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 101 of 280 (779921)
03-09-2016 12:22 PM
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03-09-2016 12:06 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
But how can Lucifer's creator visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth? Lucifer attacked the light source to the earth when it was in the first heaven. Maybe the people living in Eden died off, bad move on Lucifers part flooding that earth.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 102 of 280 (779922)
03-09-2016 1:06 PM
Reply to: Message 93 by Faith
03-09-2016 11:09 AM


Let's say their is one Gospel
We see the prayer of faith Israel walked by sight, Yahweh allowed their prayer life to work in connection with sight as that earthly kingdom was on their doorstep. Yahweh worked in connection with the sign nation, the healings that were performed and the power resident in the prayer of faith. 

When the kingdom program was ongoing and Jesus was ready to rule and reign right here on earth, a troubled believer could pray the prayer of faith, when presented with suffering circumstances and those circumstance would disappear. Yahweh provided that prayer of faith, because that kingdom was at hand and the time for troubling circumstances had come to an end. It was time to put an end to pain and suffering, because it was time for the King to rule and reign on this earth.
But mountain moving faith was Yahweh’s way of being glorified in the sovereign reign of the king. It shall be done mountain moving faith used in conjunction with the prayer of faith. Was Jesus pushing them toward faith or was he proving Israel’s lack of faith.
Now once a Israelite made that confession itself would be considered a fruit of righteousness in the eyes of Yahweh. Leviticus 26, beginning with verse 40, is the confession Israel would be called upon to make. Israel would also have to accept the remainder of her punishment, that failure under the law contract would call for and that would be the seven year tribulation.
Now before that kingdom could be realized, there was a prophetic event that had to take place first. The way Jesus taught has special application to that tribulation period to those people who were being taught to pray in this manner. This will be a very heartfelt prayer during the tribulation period.
During the time of Jacob’s trouble, the Israelites will be under tremendous persecution from the antichrist. He will be putting Israelites to death for their faith. The Israelites will be praying at that time, thy kingdom come the promised earthly kingdom to be set up right here on earth, because the only hope of deliverance for the believing Israelites at that time, will be the coming of the king and setting up of the earthly kingdom. But Israel killed their king.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 103 of 280 (779932)
03-09-2016 3:38 PM
Reply to: Message 101 by Bob Bobber
03-09-2016 12:22 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Maybe Lucifer flooded the earth when it was in the first heaven just to see what his Creator would do.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 104 of 280 (779934)
03-09-2016 5:54 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Bob Bobber
03-09-2016 1:06 PM


Re: Let's say their is one Gospel
You see, if Israel could have their sins remitted nationally, then Israel could indeed become that holy nation and kingdom of priests. And if Israel could become that holy nation and kingdom of priests, then the Gentiles would be able to come to Yahweh through Israel’s rise. That is why it would be important for Jesus ‘the messiah’ to be risen, so Israel could have their sins remitted, and they could arise, and the Gentiles could come to Yahweh through the nation Israel. It was only Israel having access to that eternal life that would make it possible for the Gentiles to have that eternal life through Israel’s rise, through the nation Israel. 

But you see, Israel nationally did not accept the Gospel of the Kingdom of Yahweh. They did not accept the Gospel of Yahweh; that Jesus was the son of Yahweh or that Jesus was the risen messiah. They did not accept that at all, so rather than rise, Israel fell. Yet, when it comes to Jesus being risen from among the dead, how could Israel’s promised earthly king sit on the throne of David in a promised literal, earthly kingdom, if the king Yahweh anointed for that kingdom remained a dead king. 

If Jesus be not risen, there is no earthly king. If Jesus be not risen, there is no earthly kingdom. If there is no earthly kingdom and that is when Israel is supposed to be forgiven, then there is no forgiveness for the nation Israel; for the saints of the kingdom program. And if there is no forgiveness, there is no salvation. And if there is no salvation, there certainly is no bodily resurrection. And if there is no bodily resurrection, all this is a story, a fairytale.

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Phat
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Message 105 of 280 (779942)
03-09-2016 11:34 PM
Reply to: Message 100 by ringo
03-09-2016 12:06 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
How could Lucifer force God to do anything?
Allow me to make up an analogy.
Using the example of a whole pie, in order to surrender a portion of reality to Lucifer, Lucifer would have to justify his own existence. God allowed evil to exist and in so doing surrendered His right of control and Lordship over a finite area.
This area symbolically or actually becomes hell. Thus any angelic being that was fallen needs space in which to exist.

Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. —RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." —Mark Twain

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