People ARE Mixing the Gospels Together!

So you believe in a myth, cool.

No, I recognize myth.

Clearly I showed the earth in the first heaven (Gen. 1:1). Gen. 1:2 clearly showed the earth flood out, because it was without form and void. Gen. 1:8 clearly shows the second heaven that the has been in.

No, sorry Charley but you did not show anything of the sort. You made assertions which you cannot support.

Not so, let throw some more poker chip out on the table. Ezekiel Chapter 28, this paints a picture of more stuff going on while the earth was in the first heaven.

What you are doing is one of the most dishonest of the tactics of the Christian Cult of Ignorance, pulling isolated proof texts out of context. It's dishonest and only fools fools.

In Ezekiel 28:11-15, Ezekiel charges that the king of Tyre has overstepped his bounds, because of his wealth; this king deemed his mind equal to a god. Although Ezekiel is telling all this to a Tyrian king, the story Ezekiel is using is neither allegory, myth, legend, nor fable, but literal historical facts set forth, and emphasized by the use of figures of speech. Ezekiel tells in this garden story, that their was an individual that was a once-perfect creature. Ezekiel 28:11b-You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and flawless in beauty.Yet, all the confusion of thought about this individual, have arisen from taking literally what is expressed by figures, or from taking figuratively what is literal. A figure of speech is never used except for the purpose of calling attention to, emphasizing and intensifying, the reality of the literal sense, and the truth of the historical facts; so that, while the words employed may not be so strictly true to the letter, they are all the more true to the truth conveyed by them, and to the historical events connected with them.

A totally irrelevant and vacuous reply.We were talking about Genesis 1. Nothing in Ezekiel has anything relevance or connection to Genesis 1.Genesis 1 is a myth written to explain and justify the Jewish sacred week and Sabbath.That was what was under discussion.Attempts to move the goal posts, palm the pea, misdirect attention may work in con games and Carny sideshows but not in an honest discussion.

Not so, Ezekiel 28:11-15 does indeed prove something. Why are bring up the Sabbath? Now there is a side show? Gen. 1:1 the Sabbath has nothing whatsoever to do with this discussion. Your question is a load question, sure it means something in the second heaven, but not here.

There is still no flood, no Satan, no first heaven in Genesis 1.Ezekiel is NOT Genesis 1.Sorry but them's the facts Jack.Have you ever read the Bible?

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Genesis 1King James Version (KJV)

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1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

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2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

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3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

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4 And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.

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5 And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

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6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

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7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.

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8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

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9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

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10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

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11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

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12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

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14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:

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15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.

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16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

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17 And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,

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18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

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19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

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20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.

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21 And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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22 And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

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23 And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.

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24 And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.

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25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

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26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

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27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

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28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

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29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.

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30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.

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31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

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And on the seventh day God rested.It is a myth designed to explain the sacred week and the Sabbath.

Are you for real, you do not have an case. Ezekiel talks about Eden and the mountain of God? Ezekiel paints more of the picture when the earth was in the first heaven.

You claimed that Genesis 1 mentioned Satan flooding the world and a first heaven but that is simply false. We will deal with the next piece of your nonsense once we clear up your Genesis 1 nonsense.

Enough all ready, I present my case, do you think your many words can prove my reasoning wrong, not a chance. I moved on and left you in the dust.

Do you remember the topic of thgis thread?It is that people are mixing the gospels together.You need to stop mixing the gospels together and stop trying to move the goal post, change the subject, palm the pea, con the rubes every time you are shown to not just be wrong but to have absolutely no idea of what is actually written in the Bible.You are not moving on, you are just trying to run away.

You do not stand a chance with your reasonings about the earth in the first heaven! Does this knowledge about Gen.1:1 lay wast to something you established about creation according to you? You have not seen anything yet, someone will come along and we will reason it out.