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Author Topic:   People ARE Mixing the Gospels Together!
jar
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Message 181 of 280 (780088)
03-10-2016 9:19 PM
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03-10-2016 9:16 PM


Re: Ezekiel 28:11-15
There is no "First Heaven" in Genesis 1.
And no Satan.
And no flood.
Should I quote it again for you?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 182 of 280 (780089)
03-10-2016 9:22 PM
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03-10-2016 9:19 PM


Re: Ezekiel 28:11-15
Your point of view about creation is being open for inspection. Someday some will come along and reason this out with me, but not you. Good bye on this matter.

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jar
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Message 183 of 280 (780090)
03-10-2016 9:29 PM
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03-10-2016 9:22 PM


Re: Ezekiel 28:11-15
It has nothing to do with creation or even reasoning; it is simply a matter of honesty and what is actually written.
In Genesis 1 there is no mention of Satan, no mention of a flood, no mention of a first heaven.
Those are all thing YOU made up, not the authors, editors, redactors of Genesis 1.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 184 of 280 (780091)
03-10-2016 9:30 PM
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03-10-2016 9:29 PM


Before Heaven
Let's go here then, what do you know about this?

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jar
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Message 185 of 280 (780092)
03-10-2016 9:34 PM
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03-10-2016 9:30 PM


Re: Before Heaven
LOL.
Who cares?
We are talking about what the Bible says and it says nothing about the state of anything before heaven.
That's as silly a question as asking what I know about before the Big Bang. It currently has no meaning.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 186 of 280 (780094)
03-10-2016 9:41 PM
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03-10-2016 9:34 PM


Re: Before Heaven
There was 24 individuals with El and 4 creatures.

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Message 187 of 280 (780095)
03-10-2016 9:51 PM
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03-10-2016 9:41 PM


Re: Before Heaven
...and 4 creatures.
And one of them was a unicorn. In the beginning there was a unicorn. And it was good that it was a unicorn. It's always good to have a unicorn.
Edited by AZPaul3, : No reason given.

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Message 188 of 280 (780096)
03-10-2016 9:57 PM
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03-10-2016 9:51 PM


Re: Before Heaven
Maybe there was unicorns running around on the wasted place. But maybe not, because it was a wasted place. The unicorns would have had to have that life these 25 individuals have within themselves and the 4 creatures have in order to survive in the wasted place.

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jar
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Message 189 of 280 (780097)
03-10-2016 9:59 PM
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03-10-2016 9:41 PM


Re: Before Heaven
Again, in Genesis 1 there are no 24 people or el or creatures.
Sorry but you are still just making shit up and mixing up the Gospels.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 190 of 280 (780098)
03-10-2016 10:02 PM
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03-10-2016 9:59 PM


Re: Before Heaven
Do a word study on 'without form' and 'void' a cool research. Someday some will come along who wants to reason this out, but not you. Good bye.

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jar
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Message 191 of 280 (780099)
03-10-2016 10:11 PM
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03-10-2016 10:02 PM


Re: Before Heaven
I can read and there is no el or 24 people or 4 creatures in either the term 'without form' or the term 'void' or anywhere in Genesis 1.
But Kipling did write on the subject in the Just So Stories, particularly the one about How the Camel got it's Hump.
But even there, no el, no 24 people, no 4 creatures.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 192 of 280 (780100)
03-10-2016 10:21 PM
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03-10-2016 10:11 PM


Re: Before Heaven
You are mad because you cannot fit the Sabbath in Gen. 1:1, exposed your point of view. Like I said, someone will come along and we will reason this out, but not with you. Good bye.

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jar
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Message 193 of 280 (780101)
03-10-2016 10:33 PM
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03-10-2016 10:21 PM


Re: Before Heaven
Actually I can fit the sacred week and the Sabbath in the story that begins in Genesis 1 and continues to Genesis 2:1-3. But first you need to understand a very little about how the Bible was created and that requires understanding that things like books of the Bible and verses and punctuation are a recent creation added long after any of the stories were first put into writing.
If you wish to learn I will be happy to try to teach you.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 194 of 280 (780102)
03-10-2016 10:38 PM
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03-10-2016 10:33 PM


Re: Before Heaven
No thanks, anyone who is putting the Sabbath into Gen. 1:1, really now. You are mad because I exposed your point of view, the Sabbath is not nor has it ever been part of Gen. 1:1. Rethink your point of view.

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Message 195 of 280 (780105)
03-11-2016 3:58 AM
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03-10-2016 10:38 PM


Fifth 'a day'
The fifth 'a day' it lasted around 4 and half to 5 billion years. I watch a lot of How the Earth was Formed. My thoughts about Lucifer, he was stuck on this earth as God did something different then what was going on while the earth was in the first heaven. Seems that is why God each 'a day' the way he did, to make a point to Lucifer about just who he is dealing with.
So we come to the fifth 'a day' and we see whatever kind of life being killed off over and over again. It seems that God is make another point to Lucifer, because Lucifer killed off the life on the earth when it was in the first heaven.
Then we come to the cave man, that is what was before Adam and Eve. But God did not create them in his image. Being created in the image of God means that we must view ourselves as intrinsically valuable and richly invested with meaning, potentially and responsibilities. We are to be and to do on a finite scale, what God is and does on an infinite scale.
By virtue of being created in the image of God, human beings are capable of reflecting his character in their own life; animals possess none of these qualities. What distinguishes people from animals is the fact that human nature inherently has godlike possibilities.
Omniscience, omnipotence, or omnipresence, none of these other divine attributes have been ascribed to the human race as part of the image of God. We have been created to reflect God in our thinking and actions, but the physical sustained by God and dependent upon him for our existence in this world and in the world to come. Developing a godly character in this present life, this will be our personal identity in the world to come. It is the character or personality that we have developed in this life, that God preserves in his memory.
So these cave people, they would have to have everything we have, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mtLXpgjHL0&feature=related
These cave people would not have a God conscious, like God has given to the human race a God consciousness, the conscious perception that we could say that there is a God somewhere and that ultimately the human race is accountable to that God. These cave people have been smart, knowing how to make a living.
Edited by Bob Bobber, : No reason given.

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