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Author Topic:   People ARE Mixing the Gospels Together!
ringo
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Message 136 of 280 (779998)
03-10-2016 10:46 AM
Reply to: Message 134 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 10:45 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob bobber writes:
Once Lucifer took over the earth while it was in the first heaven, El was forced to light the earth while Lucifer and his clan did whatever they wanted. Forced in that sense?
If you get that from the Bible, cite book, chapter and verse.

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ringo
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Message 138 of 280 (780001)
03-10-2016 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 137 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 10:49 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Jesus said that Satan was a murder from the beginning.
I asked you to cite book, chapter and verse, as in John 8:44.
Bob Bobber writes:
Beginning of what, he murdered the people on the earth while it was in the first heaven.
Cite book, chapter and verse for that.

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ringo
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Message 140 of 280 (780005)
03-10-2016 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 139 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 11:02 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Don't have a Bible with me. But that looks like the verse.
Neither do I. I Googled it.
Bob Bobber writes:
Who was Satan's first murder victims?
It doesn't say. That doesn't give you license to make things up.

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ringo
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Message 142 of 280 (780010)
03-10-2016 11:43 AM
Reply to: Message 141 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 11:25 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Not made up, it is there.
I keep asking you, WHERE is it? Book, chapter and verse.
Bob Bobber writes:
Lucifer took over that earth while it was in the first heaven and he flooded it, murdering everything alive on it.
There is nothing remotely resembling that in the Bible.

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ringo
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Message 145 of 280 (780013)
03-10-2016 11:59 AM
Reply to: Message 143 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 11:51 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
... the earth became without form and void.
The earth WAS without form, and void. It's a state of being, not an action. There is nothing to suggest that there was any previous form.
Bob Bobber writes:
Something was going on that earth while it was in the first heaven.
Cite book, chapter and verse for "first heaven".

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ringo
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Message 147 of 280 (780015)
03-10-2016 12:14 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 12:07 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
It is there.
Where? Book, chapter and verse?
Bob Bobber writes:
What does your Chapter and Verse say about?
As far as I know, there is no book, chapter or verse in the Bible that backs up your claims about Lucifer flooding the earth. If you know of any, cite them.

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ringo
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Message 151 of 280 (780021)
03-10-2016 12:22 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 12:16 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Why are you Poe'in me around.
If you're going to call people names, you should at least know what the words mean.
Bob Bobber writes:
There is no reasoning with a Poe!
I'm asking you to back up your claims with facts. That's exactly how reasoning works.

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ringo
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Message 203 of 280 (780122)
03-11-2016 10:34 AM
Reply to: Message 154 by Bob Bobber
03-10-2016 12:24 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
You just refuse to except Gen. 1:1?
I accept what Genesis 1:1 says. It doesn't say anything about Lucifer or a flood.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 204 of 280 (780123)
03-11-2016 10:39 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by NoNukes
03-10-2016 12:35 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
NoNukes writes:
I think when people say things like this, they mean forced in the same sense that your professor is 'forced' to flunk you when turn in a blank final exam.
That copout doesn't work. If God was as powerful as he supposedly is, He'd have enough sense to give an exam that we could pass. If He's deliberately setting us up to fail, He's a poor teacher.

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ringo
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Message 209 of 280 (780132)
03-11-2016 11:31 AM
Reply to: Message 207 by Bob Bobber
03-11-2016 11:11 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
But figures of speech tell the story.
There are no figures of speech about Lucifer or a flood in Genesis 1:1.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 211 of 280 (780140)
03-11-2016 11:47 AM
Reply to: Message 210 by Bob Bobber
03-11-2016 11:37 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
Yes there are!
That's not a very strong argument. Point 'em out.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 213 of 280 (780145)
03-11-2016 12:07 PM
Reply to: Message 212 by Bob Bobber
03-11-2016 12:05 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
I am thinking about jar's thoughts on something right now.
I'm glad to see you're still thinking.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 215 of 280 (780148)
03-11-2016 12:21 PM
Reply to: Message 214 by Bob Bobber
03-11-2016 12:15 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
You made me get a Bible remember, so I dug my 'torah' out of the box I have in storage.
Imagine that, actually having to use a Bible in a discussion about the Bible.

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ringo
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Posts: 20940
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Message 220 of 280 (780179)
03-12-2016 10:45 AM
Reply to: Message 216 by Bob Bobber
03-11-2016 12:27 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Bob Bobber writes:
But can anyone establish truth, besides your truth?
That's my question. You're the one who seems to be advocating The Truth.
I accept the stories in the Bible as stories. There are some valuable truths in them and there's some insight into how people thought in different cultures at different times. But I don't think there's much historical "truth" in the Bible. Certainly there is nothing like a historical flood in Genesis 1:1.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 411 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
Joined: 03-23-2005


Message 221 of 280 (780180)
03-12-2016 10:49 AM
Reply to: Message 219 by Bob Bobber
03-12-2016 10:25 AM


Re: The Errors of Dispensationalism: Old and New Testaments are One Whole
Bob Bobber writes:
Matt. 27:51, the earthquake that fractured the rock opened a fissure that ran down through 20 foot of solid rock into a cave and cracked the stone lid on top of a black stone volt where the Ark of the Covenant lie hidden inside, pushing the lid aside. John 19:34, the blood that poured from the side of Jesus, ran down through that crevice and dripped onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant that was hidden by God and the prophet Jeremiah, right under where they crucified Jesus, 620 years earlier when the Babylonians destroyed Salomon’s temple.
Made-up nonsense. Those citations say nothing like that.
Edited by ringo, : spelling.

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