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Author Topic:   People ARE Mixing the Gospels Together!
Bob Bobber
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Message 199 of 280 (780109)
03-11-2016 5:48 AM
Reply to: Message 198 by Bob Bobber
03-11-2016 5:37 AM


First 'a day'
Gen. 1:2-5 Then all of a sudden, power from God swept over the water, as God said , Let there be light. What was this light that separated the light from the darkness. This light called day and the darkness called night?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 200 of 280 (780110)
03-11-2016 6:09 AM
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03-11-2016 5:48 AM


Gen. 1:1
So jar, I see what you are saying. You are right about ‘torah’ but understand, God leaves a figure of speech tail back to Gen. 1:1 to establish another truth. Gen. 1:1 When God began to create heaven and earth, this about all the different water gods or maybe one water god. But as figures of speech bring you back to Gen. 1:1, they tell another truth. So, jar could there be two truths in Gen. 1:1? In Gen. 1:2 when God's power swept across the water, that would be where the Sabbath would start?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 205 of 280 (780127)
03-11-2016 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 201 by jar
03-11-2016 8:26 AM


Re: Before Heaven
I see what you are saying.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 206 of 280 (780128)
03-11-2016 11:10 AM
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03-11-2016 8:39 AM


Re: Gen. 1:1
This I need to think on.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 207 of 280 (780129)
03-11-2016 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 203 by ringo
03-11-2016 10:34 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
But figures of speech tell the story.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 208 of 280 (780130)
03-11-2016 11:14 AM
Reply to: Message 159 by NoNukes
03-10-2016 12:35 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
I see what you are saying, that is a deep thought.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 210 of 280 (780134)
03-11-2016 11:37 AM
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03-11-2016 11:31 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
Yes there are!

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Bob Bobber
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Message 212 of 280 (780144)
03-11-2016 12:05 PM
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03-11-2016 11:47 AM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
I am thinking about jar's thoughts on something right now. I am not blowing off. I look forward to going down that road with you, but it is important to have jar come down that road with us. Please allow me to try to make a point with jar first. Thank you for your understanding.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 214 of 280 (780146)
03-11-2016 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 213 by ringo
03-11-2016 12:07 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
A lot people got chips on the table. You made me get a Bible remember, so I dug my 'torah' out of the box I have in storage. I never thought I would have this much opposition, this is a tuff crowd. I see now that nobody is going to come on this forum and piss down these people's back and tell them it is raining.

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Message 216 of 280 (780154)
03-11-2016 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 215 by ringo
03-11-2016 12:21 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
All the imagery in the 'torah' is a lot to take in. I like to reason, but I can and will use Chapter and Verse to make my points. But can anyone establish truth, besides your truth?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 219 of 280 (780178)
03-12-2016 10:25 AM
Reply to: Message 218 by Faith
03-12-2016 10:00 AM


Re: The Errors of Dispensationalism: Old and New Testaments are One Whole
In order to build my case, what are points of view about this. Thanks
Matt. 27:51, the earthquake that fractured the rock opened a fissure that ran down through 20 foot of solid rock into a cave and cracked the stone lid on top of a black stone volt where the Ark of the Covenant lie hidden inside, pushing the lid aside. John 19:34, the blood that poured from the side of Jesus, ran down through that crevice and dripped onto the Mercy Seat of the Ark of the Covenant that was hidden by God and the prophet Jeremiah, right under where they crucified Jesus, 620 years earlier when the Babylonians destroyed Salomon’s temple. 

The Greek word used for the cross on which Jesus was put to death is stauros, which denotes an upright pale or stake. It never means two pieces of timber placed across one another at any angle, but always of one piece alone. There is nothing in the Greek of the New Testament even to imply two pieces of timber. The blood of Jesus would do no good for the Israelites dripping on stauros, because the second Adam’s blood was the basis by which Yahweh would now have just cause to remit or to clear the accounts of those with faith in time past, those who had trusted Yahweh’s word to them and who obeyed what Yahweh told them to do. 

According to Israel’s New Covenant, when would Yahweh finish what forgiveness alone would not accomplish where Israel’s sins were concerned? When would the forgiveness come? At what time would Yahweh completely clear the slate for Israel nationally-those believers who had been baptized according to John the Baptizer’s program? The blood of the second Adam would make it possible, but when would that total clearing of the accounts take place for Israel?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 222 of 280 (780183)
03-12-2016 11:00 AM
Reply to: Message 217 by jar
03-11-2016 2:08 PM


Re: When the earth was in the first heaven
So Yahweh finishes all his works and takes his rest. So Yahweh is taking it easy as he watches Adam and Eve having a good timing. In their childlike innocence they were just working the garden, growing food to eat, learning about each other. Then one day they find themselves in the middle of the garden, we know the story of what happened.
This tree thing, did it end Yahweh’s rest?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 223 of 280 (780184)
03-12-2016 11:01 AM
Reply to: Message 220 by ringo
03-12-2016 10:45 AM


The Stars
Creation versus Evolution, I get it now. Maybe we should go to the stars.

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Bob Bobber
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Message 224 of 280 (780185)
03-12-2016 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 221 by ringo
03-12-2016 10:49 AM


Re: The Errors of Dispensationalism: Old and New Testaments are One Whole
Prove it didn't happen?

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Bob Bobber
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Message 228 of 280 (780189)
03-12-2016 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 223 by Bob Bobber
03-12-2016 11:01 AM


Re: The Stars
What does the Sphinx mean to you?

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