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jar
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Message 411 of 451 (780682)
03-18-2016 7:02 PM
Reply to: Message 410 by Faith
03-18-2016 6:46 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
But that still tells us nothing Faith.
We recognize most things that are alive as alive and things that are not alive as not alive.
Only in the Princess Bride do distinctions like "What we know today as "alive" is really more dead than alive because of the Fall which brought every kind of disease, deformity and death into the world. "
In addition, not all Christianity believes there was a Fall and the Bible stories in Genesis 2&3 do not describe a Fall.
But that is the closest to actually being a description of what you think Christianity is even if so much of it seem just word salad and unintelligible.

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jar
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Message 413 of 451 (780688)
03-18-2016 7:55 PM
Reply to: Message 412 by Faith
03-18-2016 7:05 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Faith writes:
It may tell YOU nothing, but that's because you work so hard to eliminate the truth. For believers it's rich with information.
Then perhaps you can share whatever information is there.

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jar
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Message 415 of 451 (780691)
03-19-2016 8:10 AM
Reply to: Message 414 by kbertsche
03-19-2016 1:04 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
I believe that God exists.
I do not believe God is alive.
I cannot imagine or describe what such a state might be but it certainly is not alive in the way we use the term alive.
Perhaps, once I have died, I might have some understanding but until then I must admit that I am and I am very likely to remain clueless.

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jar
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Message 418 of 451 (780694)
03-19-2016 9:40 AM
Reply to: Message 416 by Faith
03-19-2016 9:29 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
An assertion by folk who wrote the various Bible stories is not really very strong evidence of anything Faith, particularly when it is a fact that so much that is said to be fact in the Bible stories is simply false and the product of ignorance.
The topic though is to try to define what people think is Christianity. You have one version and this is the place where you can try to present what YOU think is Christianity.
You will notice that I have never denied or claimed that your beliefs are not a version of Christianity.

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jar
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Message 419 of 451 (780695)
03-19-2016 9:47 AM
Reply to: Message 417 by Straggler
03-19-2016 9:39 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:
Does that mean you canimagine or describe Gods state of existence then?
As I have explained to you many, many, many, many times, no I cannot imagine or describe GOD's state. Nor, at least as long as I am a alive can I see any reasonable way that might be possible.
But as I have explained to you many, many, many, many times I can describe the state of God(s) and god(s). They are a human construct, a product of our imagination.
This is made abundantly clear in the Bible stories themselves; the God character of Genesis 1 is described entirely differently than the much older God character of Genesis 2&3. Each reflects how the people of that particular era, tradition, mythos saw God.
I'm reasonably certain that all of the various God(s) and god(s) descriptions are wrong though.

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jar
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Message 421 of 451 (780697)
03-19-2016 11:05 AM
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03-19-2016 10:59 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
But I have never claimed it is logical, reasonable or even rational so what is your point again?

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jar
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Message 424 of 451 (780701)
03-19-2016 11:23 AM
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03-19-2016 11:18 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
I can within reason provide examples of things that are alive that people generally will accept.
But I cannot imagine any way GOD could be alive within those parameters.

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jar
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Message 425 of 451 (780702)
03-19-2016 11:24 AM
Reply to: Message 422 by Faith
03-19-2016 11:16 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Faith writes:
I certainly deny that YOUR beliefs are even remotely Christian.
Yes Faith, we have noticed that.

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jar
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Message 427 of 451 (780707)
03-19-2016 11:41 AM
Reply to: Message 426 by Straggler
03-19-2016 11:37 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:
Can you within reason provide examples of things that exist which people generally will accept?
Yes.
Straggler writes:
Can you imagine and describe a way GOD exists within those parameters?
No.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 429 of 451 (780710)
03-19-2016 11:53 AM
Reply to: Message 428 by Straggler
03-19-2016 11:50 AM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:
Right.
So with regard to 'exist' you are spouting the same (I quote) "word salad" incoherence that you are accusing others of doing with respect to their description of God as being 'alive'.
Glad we cleared that up.
Possibly. But I have never claimed my belief is correct or factual or reasonable or rational or logical. I may have pointed that out in the past.

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jar
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Message 433 of 451 (780722)
03-19-2016 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 431 by Straggler
03-19-2016 12:07 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:
If he can't "imagine or describe" God's existence either then the same "word salad" objections he is accusing others of here apply equally to him.
The one fact you seem to completely ignore is that I do not dispute that. I have said many, many, many, many, many times here at EvC that my religious belief that there is a GOD is not reasonable, logical, rational, or supported in anyway.
You MIGHT have a point if I ever claimed my belief that GOD exists was correct, factual (beyond the fact that it is my belief), reasonable, rational, logical or supported by evidence.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 437 of 451 (780730)
03-19-2016 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 435 by Straggler
03-19-2016 12:38 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:
I'm not accusing your belief of being logically inconsistent. I am pointing out that your position in this thread is logically inconsistent.
I believe that is what you are attempting but so far failing miserably.
Can you point to even a single example where I have used the "word salad" description where the person posing the word salad has also said that what they posted was simply a belief and not fact or supported by evidence or was reasonable, logical or rational?
I have no problem with people holding unsupportable, irrational, illogical, unreasonable beliefs unless they also try to claim there is reason, logic, rationality, evidence or factuality to the beliefs beyond the fact that they hold such beliefs.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 442 of 451 (811471)
06-08-2017 12:28 PM
Reply to: Message 441 by Davidjay
06-08-2017 11:10 AM


Re: Christianity is based on Christ not on churchies.
Yawn.
Sorry but once again you post nothing that actually addresses the topic or has any worth, value or meaning.

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jar
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Message 444 of 451 (811503)
06-08-2017 8:15 PM
Reply to: Message 443 by Davidjay
06-08-2017 6:54 PM


Re: Christianity is based on Christ not on churchies.
And so again you simply misrepresent what I posted.
But the facts are, Jesus was never a Christian, Christianity is a religion and very little in the Chapters of Club Christian seems to be based on what Jesus taught and the topic is on What is Christianity, not what is Jesus or who is Jesus or what did Jesus do. Those stories are irrelevant to the topic.

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jar
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Message 447 of 451 (811545)
06-09-2017 7:41 AM
Reply to: Message 445 by Davidjay
06-08-2017 10:22 PM


Re: Christianity is based on Christ not on churchies.
Yawn.
Davidjay, once again you are simply spouting really stupid nonsense.
I am a Christian, raised in a Christian family, educated in a Christian school, a member of a Christian denomination (one that is actually a recognized apostolic chapter of Club Christian) so you claiming "Jesus is the Christ in Christ-ianity, you again are just being intellectually dishonest, and contrary. And hence wouldnt make a Christian unless you become honest and consistent." is not just factually wrong, it is silly.
But the fact remains. Jesus was never a Christian. Jesus was born a Jew, raised a Jew, educated as a Jew and died a Jew.
Christianity is the creation of other people than Jesus.
Your cut & paste crap may make you feel better but has nothing to do with the subject of this discussion.

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