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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But I have never claimed it is logical, reasonable or even rational so what is your point again?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1472 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
An assertion by folk who wrote the various Bible stories is not really very strong evidence of anything Faith, particularly when it is a fact that so much that is said to be fact in the Bible stories is simply false and the product of ignorance. Not according to hundreds of millions of believers and hundreds of thousands of Bible exegetes who know their business far better than you could ever pretend to. What unbelievable arrogance. Interesting that you don't quote anybody else for any of your interpretations of the Bible either, you just lay out your own self-righteous understanding.
The topic though is to try to define what people think is Christianity. You have one version and this is the place where you can try to present what YOU think is Christianity. It's the Bible believed completely to be the inspired word of God as He moved its authors down the centuries, and followed as God's guide to living, and taught as such by thousands upon thousands of highly educated and spiritually led men.
You will notice that I have never denied or claimed that your beliefs are not a version of Christianity. Am I supposed to be grateful or what? I certainly deny that YOUR beliefs are even remotely Christian.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
By your own terms of being able to "imagine or describe" a given state there is no more or less reason to describe God as 'alive' than there is to describe God as to 'exist'.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
I can within reason provide examples of things that are alive that people generally will accept.
But I cannot imagine any way GOD could be alive within those parameters.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: I certainly deny that YOUR beliefs are even remotely Christian. Yes Faith, we have noticed that.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Can you within reason provide examples of things that exist which people generally will accept?
Can you imagine and describe a way GOD exists within those parameters?
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Straggler writes: Can you within reason provide examples of things that exist which people generally will accept? Yes.
Straggler writes: Can you imagine and describe a way GOD exists within those parameters? No.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Right.
So with regard to 'exist' you are spouting the same (I quote) "word salad" incoherence that you are accusing others of doing with respect to their description of God as being 'alive'. Glad we cleared that up.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Straggler writes: Right. So with regard to 'exist' you are spouting the same (I quote) "word salad" incoherence that you are accusing others of doing with respect to their description of God as being 'alive'. Glad we cleared that up.
Possibly. But I have never claimed my belief is correct or factual or reasonable or rational or logical. I may have pointed that out in the past.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Straggler writes:
"Alive" is a fairly well-defined state. "Existing" is not.
So with regard to 'exist' you are spouting the same (I quote) "word salad" incoherence that you are accusing others of doing with respect to their description of God as being 'alive'.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Well ambivaguety is as ever jar's only real defence.
But his objection to the description of 'alive' was based on being unable to "imagine or describe" God in such a state. If he can't "imagine or describe" God's existence either then the same "word salad" objections he is accusing others of here apply equally to him. Edited by Straggler, : No reason given.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Straggler writes:
And you're just repeating yourself instead of addressing what I said: A well-defined concept is easier to "imagine or describe" than an ambivague one.
Well ambivaguety is as ever jar's only real defence.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Straggler writes: If he can't "imagine or describe" God's existence either then the same "word salad" objections he is accusing others of here apply equally to him. The one fact you seem to completely ignore is that I do not dispute that. I have said many, many, many, many, many times here at EvC that my religious belief that there is a GOD is not reasonable, logical, rational, or supported in anyway. You MIGHT have a point if I ever claimed my belief that GOD exists was correct, factual (beyond the fact that it is my belief), reasonable, rational, logical or supported by evidence.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
Jar can't meet his own stipulated requirement and is pontificating accusingly at others for something he is guilty of himself.
If he wants to change his criteria to take some sort of definitional ease into account and thus resolve the logical inconsistency/hypocrisy in his argument then he is welcome to do so. He didn't do that. He just fell back on the same waffle he always deploys when caught out.
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined: |
I'm not accusing your belief of being logically inconsistent. I am pointing out that your position in this thread is logically inconsistent.
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