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Genomicus
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Message 10 of 734 (782997)
05-02-2016 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
05-01-2016 11:57 AM


There's no visible confederate flag, no offensive confederate symbols that could have racial connotations. It's simply a monument to Southern war dead. What's wrong with that?
I can see both sides to this. On the one hand, the monument is an important part of U.S. history, and removing can be seen as tantamount to pretending history didn't happen as it did.
However, it is also important that we not romanticize the bloodiest chapter in U.S. history. Many people, it seems, think that the Confederacy is something to kinda be proud about. But the systematic destruction and enslavement of Africans carried out by Confederate states is not all that different from the Nazi-created holocaust of 1933-1945. "Honoring" the Confederate dead then becomes something like erecting memorials in honor of S.S. troopers. Is that something you're fine with? Or does that impart a kind of moral legitimacy to the actions of S.S. troopers? I think it is the latter; and believing that memorials to Confederate dead should be cherished is to ignore -- and somewhat legitimize -- the South's holocaust on Africans.

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Genomicus
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Message 12 of 734 (783000)
05-02-2016 10:38 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by Percy
05-02-2016 10:35 AM


This seems to be the day for poor analogies. Confederate soldiers are analogous to German soldiers, not to the SS that was responsible for carrying out the holocaust.
Point taken, though I should have clarified that I was referring to Waffen-SS. But you're right, Confederate soldiers would be analogous to German soldiers in my example.
To not cherish them is to ignore that we are all victims of our time and place in history.
So...erect memorials to Allgemeine SS? Weren't they also victims of their time and place in history? How are the two scenarios different exactly?

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