This belief thing

That is simply not true Faith.Stop misrepresenting what I say, believe or post.YOU said "If the characteristics are different it seems likely we're not talking about the same person. "I simply pointed out that if that were true then since the description of God in Genesis 1 is entirely different than the description of God found in Genesis 2&3, totally, completely mutually exclusive different descriptions, then by YOUR criteria it seems likely we're not talking about the same person.It's not what I say it is what is actually written and applying YOUR criteria.But that is also true of all the religions out there. Some are of course far more consistent describing the characteristics of a god then Christianity and the other two Judaic faiths, Judaism and Islam and Islam is more consistent in describing Allah than Christianity in describing the amalgam "Christian God" but all are simply the creations of humans and all simply reflect gods created by humans.Religions are paths, human constructs that evolve and change as needed and desired and totally unrelated to whether or not there is some GOD.

I've covered that may times before but will try again since it is relevant to the whole topic of "This belief thing".Beliefs change.The people that developed the story found in Genesis 2&3 had a concept of what they thought the God they worshiped was like and it was a very human god, kinda bumbling, sometimes afraid, a learning on the job tinkerer but also affectionate, approachable, subject to not always telling quite the truth. But it was a comforting god and so that's the god they put in there stories.The folk that wrote Genesis 1 came along long afterwards and they presented an entirely different description of God, one that was aloof, apart, not connecting in anyway with the creation but also supremely competent and all powerful. And so that is the god they wrote into their stories.Still later during the initial consolidation period (likely during the Exile) all these different separate stories were mushed together into the written Torah and for some reason it was not a matter of making it one story but instead just minor rearrangements (the newer younger creating myth put first with the older creation myth second and the two different flood myths both included but in alternating chapters) and the whole bunch of unrelated tales that had grown up over long, long periods of time attributed to Moses who may of may not have even existed.It's not really that there are two gods in the Bible but rather that there are no GODs in the Bible and just a collection of caricatures created by differing peoples, differing cultures during different eras and locations.Still later the Christian writers added their own creations showing how they saw God and all those different creations have been accepted as relating to some "God of the Bible" that again varies as seen by the various audiences.This is also true though of all religions, the grow and evolve as they are created by each new generation.

You need to ask that of the people who wrote the story found in Genesis 2&3. Remember when the god character is trying to figure out what a helpmeet for Adam might be and so just brings different critters to see if they work and then when none of them work clones Eve (or Steve) from Adam. What else would anyone call that then bumbling? Fumbling? Groping? Indecisive? Confused? Unknowing? Ignorant?Compare that behavior to the God character found in the much later Genesis 1 story from a different culture. In Genesis 1 the God character is sure and almost all knowing and does without hesitation.The point Faith is that just as with all the world's religions those stories are just made up and reflect the people of the era rather than any actual God.It's not a matter of what I say but rather what the authors wrote; not what I think but what they thought and expressed.

Exactly, a proper helper. Now you might think that God having made critters male and female he made them, would know that a fit helper from Adam would be a female human. But it seems that God really can't figure that out without first trying all the already made critters (the story is not clear whether the god character offered Adam a choice between a male critter and a female critter).But I like words such as meet and fructify and oblate and widdershins.