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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
What on earth are you blathering on about? You have a serious problem with reading a very simple description. The Chinle formation was mentioned as an example of a very extensive formation of fossil beds in the western USA in the supposed Triassic Period, which supposedly indicates a large population of living things in that time period; but there was deep ocean covering that part of North America during the Triassic Period -- and the Jurassic and the Cretaceous.
The point is that Geology is contradicting itself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: Obviously I am looking very hard for something resembling a remotely sensible argument. If the "deep ocean" had directly followed the Chinle formation there would be some semblance of relevance, but it seems not.
quote: But there wasn't deep ocean covering that part of North America when either the Chinle formation or the succeeding formations were deposited.
quote: You could have said as much. But so far that is mere assertion. We don't have anything but your word for it and you have a record of misrepresenting your sources. To any rational person this contradiction is almost certainly an error on your part. And you have given no reason to think otherwise.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I don't respect you enough to bother to produce the quotes from the book in question. Think whatever evil-minded thing you want to think.
But there wasn't deep ocean covering that part of North America when either the Chinle formation or the succeeding formations were deposited. According to the usual description that would be the case; the point is that they say that but they also have a whole section on the geological development of North America that has water covering the very areas where the fossil beds are found. Take it or leave it Paul. There is nothing reasonable about anything you ever say about me and my arguments anyway. It's all mean-spirited evilspeak that I get from you. If you want to check out the textbook reference, as I said I believe there are other editions of it online.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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quote: I will simply note that evasiveness is a common sign of dishonesty.
quote: They may well have water covering that area at some point, but not when the Chinle formation was being deposited, and very likely not deep ocean (if you had said that there was an eperic sea in the Cretaceous it would have been quite plausible - but obviously irrelevant to dinosaurs living in the Triassic)
quote: Considering that you throw nastier and less justified attacks my way your sentiment rings rather hollow.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Landscapes occur on top of exposed layers, but never occurred on any layer that is still in the stack. That is a made up premise that you cannot demonstrate to be correct. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King If there are no stupid questions, then what kind of questions do stupid people ask? Do they get smart just in time to ask questions? Scott Adams
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That is a made up premise that you cannot demonstrate to be correct. Far be it from me to expect to "demonstrate" anything to anyone here. But it's an OBSERVATION of mine that NOTHING happened between the layers EVER, and I've spent a lot of time arguing that quite well in my opinion.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
They may well have water covering that area at some point, but not when the Chinle formation was being deposited, and very likely not deep ocean (if you had said that there was an eperic sea in the Cretaceous it would have been quite plausible - but obviously irrelevant to dinosaurs living in the Triassic) You can search the book at Amazon. Search under Triassic Paleogeography or Jurassic or Cretaceous. They all have illustrations showing the west coast under deep ocean and the Jurassic and Cretaceous also show the epeiric sea extended eastward from the Rockies. HEre's the page on Trassic Paleogeography https://www.amazon.com/...eology-Reed-Wicander/dp/0495560073 ABE: The link doesn't go to that page so you'll have to search it yourself. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : correct quote code
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
Gosh you are just never at a loss for a nasty accusation, are you? That sort of thing must make up at least 90% of your communications to me. No wonder I don't respect you.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
The only online copies I can see look like dodgy pirate sites. No thanks, for both moral and prudential reasons.
If anyone has a copy and can find out why Faith thinks that they say that the area of the Chinle formation was under deep ocean at the time the formation was being deposited (Colorado plateau, late Triassic) please let me know.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
You can search the Amazon copy of the 6th edition, as I say in Message 82 but I know of people who have found it online and I hadn't heard of it described as pirated.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2329 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined:
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Maybe we can refer to the maps on this page when discussing when seas were covering what areas during which time periods.
https://www2.nau.edu/rcb7/nam.html
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
The pages aren't there when I look. It explicitly states that pages 8-429 are excluded from the preview.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: I invite people to read my posts and come to their own conclusions.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1471 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I found the page on the Triassic including the map. Try other pages at Amazon.
ABE: I just tried it again, searched on "Triassic Paleogeography" and got the page with the map. But it's the same link I posted before which doesn't work from here. abe: Starting from the "Wicander" page I went to the 6th edition page and was able to get not only the Triassic map but by hitting the right arrow got the Jurassic map as well. So far haven't been able to get the Cretaceous map. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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jar Member (Idle past 421 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Those maps are great for showing what has been described repeatedly in this and other threads that change is gradual and continuous and that while some areas might be underwater during certain periods there is still lots of land that is not flooded. What must be remembered though is that what is shown is just a snapshot that was taken every 5-10 million years and that there was gradual change throughout the periods and not an abrupt change to the snapshot state.
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