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09-18-2016 2:57 PM


Conventional dating methods used in archeology, geology and paleontology are numerous and pretty well defined. There are the tools and procedures used for relative dating as well as those used for absolute dating.

What are the equivalent dating methods used by those claiming a Young Earth? How do they determine both relative and absolute dates?


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Message 2 of 7 (791618)
09-18-2016 7:18 PM
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What are the equivalent dating methods used by those claiming a Young Earth?

Are you expecting something beyond "The Bible says the Earth is young?"

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Or something like that.

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Message 3 of 7 (791619)
09-18-2016 7:47 PM
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09-18-2016 7:18 PM


I certainly hope so.

AbE:

For example, Faith claims that all of the layers above the Vishnu Schist were laid down in one year. She certainly must have some method of dating to be able to make a claim like that. How does she know that a given layer was not put down in say, the year 123BCE? Or maybe in 1066CE.

She has been pretty clear that all those layers are the result of things happening in one specific year so she MUST have some way to date the top and bottom layers within a 12 month period.

Edited by jar, : see AbE:


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Message 4 of 7 (791621)
09-18-2016 8:34 PM
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09-18-2016 7:47 PM


Reluctant to turn this one loose
In order to avoid another "dogpile on Faith", might you be interested in trying this as a "Great Debate", Jar and Faith only?

And I have hopes that you two might keep things down to 1 or 2 quality posts per day. I might even make such a moderator requirement, for the topic to stay open.

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09-18-2016 8:56 PM
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Re: Reluctant to turn this one loose
From Message 482:

Faith writes:

I don't want to engage in a Great Debate with jar on this subject. As you say in your first post to his proposal, there is really nothing more to say than that YE is based on the Biblical framework.

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Message 6 of 7 (791625)
09-18-2016 10:39 PM
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09-18-2016 8:56 PM


Re: Reluctant to turn this one loose
Perhaps this could be bumped, say every quarter, since surely there must be some person within the YEC community that knows how they determined the age of things? Faith has asserted more than once that the layers above the base of the Grand Canyon were laid down during the Biblical Flood yet there is nothing in either of the Biblical Flood myths that would even hint at layers of rock being deposited.

Since the Biblical Flood myths do not have anything that would help in dating layers Faith must be using some other criteria to know that the Vishnu Schists were somehow formed before the flood and also which layers were laid down after the flood. After all, all the material deposited during the flood had to have been created before the flood and we know that all the conventional processes have continued after the flood until the present. She or some other YEC must have developed dating methods comparable to what conventional geologist, archeologist, astronomers, paleontologists, chemists, physicists and historians use to determine relative and absolute ages; at least to determine which layers were formed during the flood and how the material deposited by the flood was formed before the flood.

I can understand your reluctance to open this up to discussion since it really is very likely that YECs may not have any models, mechanism, method, process, procedure or thingamabob to determine relative or absolute age of anything; but who knows, perhaps someday there might be a YEC that can provide such a process.


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Message 7 of 7 (791753)
09-20-2016 9:12 PM


Faith has said that relative dating is sufficient.
It seems to me it is time for the Young Earth proponents to step up and discuss at the very least relative dating methods.

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