Rationalising The Irrational - Hardcore Theists Apply Within

What would you be focused on?Why is a god a distraction? Is a wife a distraction from a football game?Is an attractive wife as much of a distraction?Can God make Himself attractive? Moreso than the nuisances which take our time and money and fool us?Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

No, because if such a being exists it never reveals itself to win admirers. Total invisibility, total inactivity, total lack of interaction with nonbelievers is not attractive. It has all the characteristics of non-existence and in fact cannot be shown to exist. You mean like religion?

You asked me to describe the character and nature of a hypothetical God that I create. We already know about the one that YOU create and we already know that I think it's illogical. We're quite capable of creating our own challenges.

Whatever the hell I feel like focusing on. Yes. That's a good analogy for once; the god you envision is very much like a nagging wife. Yes. There can be positive distractions and negative distractions. Unfortunately, we are often attracted to women who are no good for us. Worse than that, your god is downright genocidal.

Have you read the Gospels? Pretty sure there are instances where Jesus' disciples did just that.

Exactly what we would expect from a non-existent deity.Is there anything that would distinguish the God you believe in from a deity that doesn't exist?

Yes. Your free will.

You gotta explain that. How is free will evidence of anything supernatural?Edited by jar, : fix sub-title

He is free to believe in the Deity that doesnt exist and in fact differentiates it from the one I believe in. My Deity exists.And as you have stated before, it is impossible to measure the supernatural ... The supernatural is limited to belief. There is no evidence. Essentially one side believes in evidence. The belief is in lack of evidence...or a Deity that does not exist.The other side has only their belief. They believe in a Deity that exists.You cant say that my belief is incorrect. You can only say that it is likely incorrect if you adhere to the criteria of evidence. For you my belief may be indistinguishable from a non existent Deity. For me, it is not. That is essentially the difference.Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

So freewill is NOT evidence of anything.Got it.But why do you claim that it is evidence?

Yes. The question was

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Is there anything that would distinguish the God you believe in from a deity that doesn't exist?

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and my answer was that ones own belief...ones freewilled belief, opinion, or spirituality is what distinguishes existence vs non-existence of a Deity.Obviously we cannot have evidence of the supernatural, but we ourselves are the living evidence of our beliefs through our actions. Not to say that Christian actions are any better or worse than atheist actions...but they are different in that Christians give the credit to a God in whom they believe while atheists do not. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.

How does that distinguish the God you believe in from a deity that doesn't exist?

Can you please explain how people are incapable of believing in a deity that doesn't exist? If the supernatural is real, why couldn't we have evidence of it?

If people are capable of believing in deities that don't exist then how is your belief evidence that your preferred deity exists? The lack of evidence for a deity isn't a belief. It is a fact, by your own admission. Do you understand what the burden of proof is?

Yes. Scripture explains it in Revelation. The Beast which you saw once was, now is not, and yet is for those whose names are not written in the book of life.Does the Beast exist, apart from a character in literature? Answer that one. What tests do you propose we use?