In
Message 316, you wrote:
NN writes:
Right. But as I pointed out, that creed does not put the Catholic Church as the authority for remission of sins.
I suspect that Catholics would disagree with you -
But not because of what the Nicene Creed says.
The creed is just an attempt at capturing the basic important stuff into one list of belief statements.
I don't see anywhere in the creed that says that it might not be the truth or the only path.
Well, it is a bunch of statements of beliefs rather than statements of facts.
We believe this and we believe that. Not, this is a fact and that is a fact.
In fact rather the opposite.
We believe [...] In one holy catholic and apostolic Church; we acknowledge one baptism for the remission of sins; we look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come.
That's not saying what you think its saying. Here's some more info on that:
Four Marks of the Church - Wikipedia
The four characteristics of the Christian Church are:
1. one - one body and one spirit
2. holy - on purpose from God
3. catholic - universal and complete
4. apostolic - originated from Jesus' apostles
quote:
While specific doctrines, based on both tradition and different interpretations of the Bible, distinguish one Church or denomination from another, largely explaining why there are so many different ones, the Four Marks, when defined the same way, represent a summary of what historically have been considered the most important affirmations of the Christian faith.
From
Message 322:
The whole intent of the creed is to claim the true god and the way to heaven through it. I'm not interested in the bible here - just the creed.
Not really. It was an
ecumenical council, which means there were multiple groups with different beliefs participating. The intent was to get down to the basic important stuff that everyone found agreeable rather than outline the one true way that things should be.
From
Message 324:
But the other assumption is that only believers in the one god will make it to the afterlife and that is what is taught by almost all versions of your club.
No, that is not covered by the creed. That is outside the creed's purpose. The creed is just a list of belief statements.