The Marketing Of Christianity

Ok, maybe that's a complaint about an individual here - it's certainly not an accusation that can be raised against atheists generally; they could give a toss either way. Now this has to be a joke? The bible is stuffed full of myths and porkie pies. Talking snakes, parting waters, flooding the world raising dead - you name it, it's a bunch of children's stories. Objecting to people pointing this out is a bit lame.

Evidently you believe that it is what we do and not about what He did.Would I be correct in assuming that you believe that being a "good" or productive Christian does not even require a Living Christ?

So am I correct in assuming that if I told you that Jesus Christ was alive today, you would "give a toss either way"?Or would you demand scientific evidence?(Keep in mind we are in a Faith & Belief Forum)I'm still waiting whether jar---a purported Christian--thinks it matters.There is a difference between telling children to do their best because it is the right thing to do and telling them that God is alive and actually cares about what they do.Would you tell your children to avoid myths and tales and focus on the dignity and almighty hope that science and critical thinking provide for our lives and our future destiny?

I cannot imagine how you could possibly yet again totally misrepresent my position based on what was quoted. How do you do it? Well first you would have to explain what a Living Christ might even be. That seemed like nothing but more word salad.But being a "good" or productive Christian first requires being a member of one of the Chapters of Club Christian and then depends on your behavior. I cannot see how any Christ would be a requirement. Perhaps you could explain those issues?

I'd simply think you're yet another religious crack-pot. You act like this statement has never been said before. If Jesus was alive, I'd know about it wouldn't I? There sure is, the difference is that the second is at best redundant and at worst a lie used to manipulate others. What's science got to do with it? I'd tell - and did tell - my children to respect other people, be nice and help when you can. That's how decent societies get on.

Good question.Would you expect to know about it or would you already have your mind made up about the absurdity of it all?If you have already concluded that something is impossible, you may never know about it.

You realy struggle with this don't you :-)I've only made my mind up because I have absolutely no evidence to support the claim that Jesus exists. None. Zip. Alternatively there's stack of evidence that he doesn't. Even your book said he was killed. Even if you believe the daft idea of resurrection, he buggered off into the clouds and was never seen again.But all that apart, if he showed up and performed a few confirmed miracles I'd be forced to accept that fact. That's just silly. If something was demonstrated to be possible, how and why would I reject it??? What sort of strange logic are you applying here? I'm not against the idea of a god, I just think that your's is preposterous, but if he showed up, then fine, I'd be wrong and I'd change my mind. In a flash.

Lets take this line of thought over to The God That Paul Marketed Over Time.

whats wrong with the belief that humans are special to God?

Cause hubris, arrogance and insouciance to nature will undo us.

Not me.. I would call him out as an evil asshole and tell him to get behind me.

I disagree. I maintain that worship (extreme veneration and respect) of nature itself will undo us. Worshipping nature includes the deification of human wisdom.

A deep connection to nature has nothing to do with worship.

Nature is very much a part of worship...though the focus is always on the Creator and not on creation itself.One of the most beautiful worship songs shows this contrast.https://youtu.be/we-n-Zmglt0

Phat, that is something that only exists in the minds of the Christian Cult of Ignorance.There is no evidence of any other form of wisdom than human wisdom (and the wisdom of other living critters). There has never even been an example of any wisdom other than human wisdom offered or presented.There is no evidence of human wisdom ever being deified. The closest example of that might be Ganesha but even there Ganesha is only the remover of obstacles that can lead to enlightenment. Even there we find balance since Ganesha is also capable of creating obstacles to frustrate all those whose ambition has become so great as to be destructive.Notice that even what you quoted really says absolutely nothing about human wisdom and is itself an example of human wisdom.