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Author Topic:   The Church And Sexual Expression
ringo
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Message 11 of 34 (793857)
11-06-2016 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Phat
11-06-2016 9:15 AM


Re: Its The Purpose
Phat writes:
...but my argument is that society does not encourage people to get deeper with their emotions.
I think you have that backwards. Our society does encourage a lot of voodoo nonsense about commitment and what a "committed relationship" should be. The problem isn't that there isn't enough of that; the problem is that it isn't realistic.
The biological urges are real. The "deeper meaning" that people "should" have often is not.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 24 of 34 (793951)
11-07-2016 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Phat
11-06-2016 3:03 PM


Re: Its The Purpose
Phat writes:
Are you suggesting that humans should not strive for deeper insight?
I'm suggesting that people shouldn't look for ready-made insight; they shouldn't expect everybody's relationships to be the same; they shouldn't assume that there is something "wrong" if their relationships don't fit the mould.
Phat writes:
No wonder you dont want any sort of authority in your life apart from your own inner awareness.
Now you're contradicting yourself. Yes, we should have inner awareness, NOT rely on some spook to tell us who we are.
Phat writes:
My argument is that you and all of us collectively---are not fully healthy just the way we are.
Who said we were? My position is that religion is not the cure for addictions and compulsions. It's one of them.
Phat writes:
... overall sensuality without responsibility that the human animal is plagued with.
You keep forgetting that I'M the one who advocates responsibility.

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ringo
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Message 25 of 34 (793952)
11-07-2016 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 17 by Phat
11-07-2016 7:19 AM


Re: Its The Purpose
Phat writes:
... all love starts and ends with Jesus Christ.
quote:
All love starts and ends with Coca-Cola!
All love starts and ends with Tide!
All love starts and ends with Volkswagen!
All love starts and ends with Kellogg's Corn Flakes!
Nice slogan - and one size fits all.

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ringo
Member (Idle past 433 days)
Posts: 20940
From: frozen wasteland
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Message 31 of 34 (794006)
11-08-2016 11:06 AM
Reply to: Message 30 by Phat
11-08-2016 9:52 AM


Re: Its The Purpose
Phat writes:
... many people do not love enough.
They're known as "Christians".
Phat writes:
Im just sharing my belief.
You seem to be working very hard at convincing yourself that your belief has some validity but your belief is completely disconnected from reality.

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