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Topic: Republican Healthcare Plan
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3 of 187 (794155)
11-10-2016 5:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 1 by Taq
11-10-2016 4:35 PM
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There is no republican plan other than repeal, root out and destroy the ACA.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
HSA's are not a solution. This is not a health care plan and this "plan" has not been endorsed by the republican party Name calling is uncalled for. Normally I do not reply to trolls, but there is no need for calling people morons because they disagree with you. You seem to be a bit ignorant on what the republican plan to repeal the ACA is, because as of yet there is no plan.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
Most of these people are already at 0 federal taxes.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
Bullshit. It removes the profit motive. Do you have data to back up your assertion?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 59 of 187 (794523)
11-16-2016 4:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 48 by jar
11-16-2016 4:14 PM
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
God forbid you need dental work and don't have employer based insurance. In our area the wait time for new patients at the only clinic that takes Medical assistance or subsidized insurance is one year. 3-4 months for existing patients. ABE I know this is a fact because my wife is the medical director and we send our low income friends that way. I also have a disabled son that is on MA and he goes to that clinic. My time frames are based on actual data. Edited by Theodoric, : Add data
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
And still, it requires supplemental insurance...
Really? That is your argument. Medicare has been hamstrung for years by the republicans in congress. You use that as an argument?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
I won't do your research for you. Have you heard of Mitt's 47%?
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 65 of 187 (794530)
11-16-2016 5:34 PM
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Reply to: Message 64 by xongsmith
11-16-2016 5:24 PM
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Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
I spent all day arguing with a Rethug about the ACA. Nothing he claimed was true. I even showed him that, but he refused to consider that actually facts mean more than "what he was told". The main issue was the Obamacare subsidy. He claims it is unfair for people to get a subsidy for their insurance. His argument is that the tax break he gets from the feds for his employer provided health insurance is not a subsidy. I found out he makes over 150k and his company pays $30k plus for his insurance. He therefore gets effectively at least an $8k subsidy for his insurance. Of course he claims he does not, but is unwilling to give up his tax break,
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Re: Myths Americans Believe About Healthcare
Not propaganda, direct experience. I've worked in VA and non-VA hospitals and they are shit compared to others. One VA was so attrocious that we walked out on them without even starting the service we where there to do for them. It was so filthy that my cowokers and I were not willing to risk our health to do the job.
Anecdote not evidence. You have a real problem discerning the, difference between anecdote and evidence. I know at least 5 vets that deal with the VA on at least a weekly basis. 4 think it is fantastic. The other hates Obama and because of that hates the VA even though he keeps going back. So whose anecdote holds more weight? Your personal anecdotes don't mean shit and neither do mine.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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