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Message 66 of 187 (794531)
11-16-2016 5:47 PM
Reply to: Message 39 by New Cat's Eye
11-16-2016 3:58 PM


Re: Try reading what Trump said it has been on his website since March
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Having the government in charge of something makes it cost more money and take longer. Plus they're notoriously incompetent and careless.
  —Cat Sci
That's just dogma - the USA's private system is an enormously inefficient and ineffective system compared the the NHS. Off the scale....

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Message 79 of 187 (794544)
11-16-2016 7:43 PM
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11-16-2016 7:34 PM


Re: Myths Americans Believe About Healthcare
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Is that not a true statement?
  —Cat Sci
Of course not. You've swallowed the dogma.

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Message 84 of 187 (794552)
11-17-2016 3:55 AM
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11-16-2016 8:09 PM


Re: Myths Americans Believe About Healthcare
Couple of things - our tax rate is not 40%, it varies from 0 to a max of 45%. The basic rate is 20%.
The UK is not socialist, at the moment it's right wing conservative. But even the most extreme right wing government knows that removing the NHS would be political suicide. Once you've had universal healthcare free at the point of delivery, you can't understand countries that don't. I'd hate to have your risk hanging over me.

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Message 110 of 187 (794599)
11-17-2016 5:33 PM


All of this economic nonsense totally misses the point of what happens to people.
I was born into a system whereby everybody, no matter who he or she is, has medical help free at the point of delivery no matter what - no exceptionss, no qualifications. A medical emergency cannot bankrupt me and I know that if the worst happens to me or my family, we'll get health care of exceptional quality regardless of my personal circumstances. It's not without terrible problems but it's one of those world class, civilisation changing ideas that once experienced cannot be given up.
You'd have to be insane not to want to buy into such a system. Utterly insane.

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"Life, don't talk to me about life" - Marvin the Paranoid Android
"Science adjusts it's views based on what's observed.
Faith is the denial of observation so that Belief can be preserved."
- Tim Minchin, in his beat poem, Storm.

  
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