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Message 16 of 66 (795525)
12-14-2016 9:48 AM
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12-13-2016 11:34 AM


and so it begins
Namen nennen.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 17 of 66 (795526)
12-14-2016 10:29 AM
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12-14-2016 9:48 AM


Re: and so it begins
I believe there's an old French saying (actually, I created it):
quote:
It ain't over 'til the blade has finished dropping.
Thomas Paine could attest to that.
As for taking names, Department of Energy has refused a request for a list of people who attended climate change conferences and a list of everybody's published articles. In the meantime, they are busy backing up all their climate-related data and research safely out of reach of Trump's minions.
A week or two ago, the administrators of the WayBackMachine web archive started creating a complete backup copy of the archive in Canada, safely out of reach of Trump's minions.

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Message 18 of 66 (795531)
12-14-2016 11:39 AM


I feel like I an watching the Red Queen
Here we are seeing direct evidence of a purge, of a pogrom and folk are talking about something as trivial as whether some Christians get their little panties in a wad when told they are expected to actually do their job.
Faith are you so dense that you cannot see that they first came for the Global Warming evidence producers but soon they will come for YOU?
quote:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak for me.

My Sister's Website: Rose Hill Studios My Website: My Website

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Message 19 of 66 (795532)
12-14-2016 11:45 AM
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12-14-2016 10:29 AM


Re: and so it begins
Hello dwise1,
I know I am not the only one disturbed by the recent picks for Sec State, Sec of Energy and Sec of Education.
It would not be worrisome if Trump's picks where just random sillyness made to propagate liberal tears.
No, these are calculated and deliberate choices from genuine ideologues and policy wonks who will most likely, systematically destroy any semblance of those offices.
It would not be so worrisome if Trump would take the CIA at it's word that Russia meddled in our election process by hacking.
It would not be so worrisome if Trump would stop twittering and started to act like a president of the most powerful country on Earth.
If he would start to realize he is on the bottom of the learning curve and needs to start paying attention to his security advisers instead of saying shit like: "I'm smart." and concerning himself with being baited by SNL. I hate that we must suffer this fool because our fellow countrymen are so divided and ignorant, they'd rather not vote or cast a vote to a unprincipled tax dodging twit. I had better be careful what I say...winter is coming.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 21 of 66 (795550)
12-14-2016 2:26 PM
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12-14-2016 11:45 AM


Re: and so it begins
It would not be so worrisome if Trump would take the CIA at it's word that Russia meddled in our election process by hacking.
For what it's worth that has been exposed as false. A foreign nation DID try to affect the election process but it was China, not Russia, and it was done to improve Hillary's chances, not Trump's. To learn the facts about these things you would have to go to the non-fake news sources, the independent media rather than the fake-news generators, the MSM.

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Message 22 of 66 (795554)
12-14-2016 2:39 PM
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12-14-2016 2:26 PM


Re: and so it begins
And how do you know that your "Independent Media" are providing "not-fake" news, instead of news so fake that the mainstream media won't touch it ?
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.

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Message 23 of 66 (795555)
12-14-2016 2:42 PM
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12-14-2016 2:39 PM


Re: and so it begins
Because they make a convincing case for most of their claims.
Doesn't matter to me whether you agree or not. Take it or leave it.

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Message 24 of 66 (795557)
12-14-2016 2:43 PM
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12-14-2016 11:39 AM


Re: I feel like I an watching the Red Queen
Uh huh, but it's the Christians they are coming for now and you manage not to see it.

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Message 25 of 66 (795559)
12-14-2016 2:45 PM
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12-14-2016 2:42 PM


Re: and so it begins
In other words they tell you what you want to hear.
That doesn't mean it is true. In fact it is a good reason to think that it is a pack of lies.

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Message 26 of 66 (795566)
12-14-2016 2:50 PM
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12-14-2016 2:26 PM


Re: and so it begins
Faith writes:
For what it's worth that has been exposed as false.
Source please.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 27 of 66 (795569)
12-14-2016 2:53 PM
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12-14-2016 2:50 PM


Re: and so it begins
Infowars, Drudge, Breitbart

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Message 28 of 66 (795571)
12-14-2016 2:54 PM
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12-14-2016 2:53 PM


Re: and so it begins
Faith writes:
Infowars, Drudge, Breitbart
I thought you didn't trust the media.

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Message 29 of 66 (795575)
12-14-2016 3:06 PM
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12-14-2016 2:53 PM


Re: and so it begins
So, a lunatic conspiracy site and two highly biased Right-wing sites. All worse than the mainstream media. I wonder how many of them supported the pizzagate nonsense. Nonsense that came rather too close to getting someone killed.
Ars Technica
And a little search later: The Hill
Welch also urged a friend to watch a Pizzagate video produced by Alex Jones’s InfoWars website...
Edited by PaulK, : Found a little more

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Message 30 of 66 (795579)
12-14-2016 3:28 PM
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12-14-2016 2:53 PM


Re: and so it begins
Oh well that settles it. If they say it, it must be true.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 31 of 66 (795607)
12-14-2016 4:16 PM
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12-14-2016 3:28 PM


Re: and so it begins
As I said, they support their points far more convincingly than the real fake news misnamed the MSM. Today's Infowars radio shows are discussing the fact that there is absolutely no evidence of Russian hacking, but lots of evidence that China interfered for Hillary, which is reported in their own news reports. Infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show. The sources I named are very careful about their sources.

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