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Taq Member Posts: 10084 Joined: Member Rating: 5.1
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Faith writes: As I said, they support their points far more convincingly than the real fake news misnamed the MSM. Today's Infowars radio shows are discussing the fact that there is absolutely no evidence of Russian hacking, but lots of evidence that China interfered for Hillary, which is reported in their own news reports. Infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show. The sources I named are very careful about their sources. That isn't the problem, Faith. While there isn't any "smoking gun" evidence that Russia did the hacks, the independent experts are very certain that it was Russia. The real problem is that Trump almost reflexively runs to the aid or Russia to try and make these findings go away. That is the troubling part.
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jar Member (Idle past 422 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: Uh huh, but it's the Christians they are coming for now and you manage not to see it. I'm sorry Faith but that is still simply false no matter how many times you repeat it.
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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1532 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined:
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..that and appointing cabinet members who are ideologically opposed to the very departments they will be heading.
Perry wanting to dismantle the Dept of Energy Pruitt suing the EPA And a oil CEO as Sec of State what bad could happen. "You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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Modulous Member Posts: 7801 From: Manchester, UK Joined:
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Uh huh, but it's the Christians they are coming for now and you manage not to see it. By your definitions of Christian (which I don't share), the Christians have made non-Christians life (including my own) oftentimes a miserable and wretched experience with real risks to career, home, health finances and life. And they did it, and do it with smug glee or hateful expressions. So I won't raise a finger to stop 'them' coming for the Christians. They deserve some persecution, perhaps when they experience some actual persecution they'll reconsider the persecutions they have heaped upon me and mine. Perhaps if they had shown love, compassion, empathy and understanding they'd find they have allies today. Ah well, they should have listened to the screams and used their time in power to heal the sick and poor rather than ignore and impoverish them. Still, you've got Trump now who promised to persecute the 'others' including the 'left' so I suggest you enjoy what might be your last time in the sun. Edited by Modulous, : No reason given. Edited by Modulous, : No reason given.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 376 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined:
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Trump names Elon Musk, Uber CEO to advisory team
This is certainly encouraging news. I have no idea how much exposure they will have or how much weight that their opinions will carry but encouraging none the less. While some of his choices are alarming I maintain a suspicion that he may make some real advantageous changes like the banning of lobbyists (that I heard about but have no idea if its true). There is some real value in rocking the boat every so often. If nothing else, it lets you know how stable the boat is. The best you can hope for is that they will be ineffective at doing anything.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
I maintain a suspicion that he may make some real advantageous changes like the banning of lobbyists How would Trump accomplish something like that? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 376 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
By Presidential decree I presume.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
By Presidential decree I presume. I don't believe that the president has such power under the constitution, and neither should you. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 376 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
I thought for sure that I wouldn't need a smiley face on that one.
edit; the times they are a changin Edited by ProtoTypical, : No reason given.
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Okay, so the "presidential degree" answer was a joke. Fair enough.
So what did you mean by this?
I maintain a suspicion that he may make some real advantageous changes like the banning of lobbyists (that I heard about but have no idea if its true). Was that also a joke? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 376 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
No that wasn't a joke. Are you saying that it is an impossible task?
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
No that wasn't a joke. Are you saying that it is an impossible task? What I am expressing is doubt that Trump can do much about lobbyists other than by making rules for folks working for him and his appointees. Trump is not a member of the legislature. I asked you how you thought he might do it, but your answer was a joke. Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
Prototypical concludes with:
The best you can hope for is that they will be ineffective at doing anything. THIS ^^^^^- xongsmith, 5.7d
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 376 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
I couldn't describe the mechanics of the thing for you but my point was that it was a good idea. Would it take much more than a few changes to accounting law?
Anyway my real point was that not all of the voices will be coming from inside his head and that seemed encouraging.
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Dogmafood Member (Idle past 376 days) Posts: 1815 From: Ontario Canada Joined: |
The best you can hope for is that they will be ineffective at doing anything. THIS ^^^^^ This is what we look for most in our govts up here.
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