The God That Paul Marketed Over Time.

Context, context.

I said there are direct commands to the individual Muslim reader of the Koran to murder infidels at will.What you are quoting are God's commands to the Israelites about the right punishments for violation of the Law which are spelled out in great detail in the OT books of the Law. Laws given to the nation of Israel, to be executed by the nation of Israel on ITS OWN PEOPLE. THERE IS NO COMPARISON. Sheesh. Why are Leftists such wackos?Oh and a "garden" is also a carnal image, as in earthly pleasures. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

This has already been discussed to death. Genocide is murder, God condemns murder, God does not commit murder. God executes justice (the death penalty is not murder, contrary to the views of the logic-challenged bleeding hearts who love criminals and hate victims). Yes sometimes using His own ancient people for the job, sometimes using a foreign nation to judge His own people. This answers nothing I just wrote, which was about the LAW GIVEN TO THE ISRAELITES ABOUT INDIVIDUAL SINS. Which itself was given as a contrast with the Koran's specific commands to Muslim readers to kill innocent people, which we see in practice all the time these days.Yes, sheesh again. Leftists seem to be severely challenged when it comes to reading in context.OH and by the way IIRC some of the instances you list were not ordered by God and actually against His will. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

"Social justice" is an invention of Marxists, it is not Christian. Jesus says nothing about how nations are to be run, He addresses individuals, and yes as individuals we are to help the poor. The state is not addressed. The state is to be run by Law and that can be found in the OT.

Actually it's just a simple matter of logic and reading in context, as I keep saying, but leftist prejudice can make anything mean whatever it wants.

Allah's "moral law" is killing infidels. There is no comparison. Context, logic, context, logic.

Yep, Leftists can say anything, redefine words to suit themselves, mangle logic beyond recognition, ignore context and of course accuse the opponent of all their own errors. It's very effective too. SIgh.The Koran had to say a FEW nice-sounding things in order to deceive gullible people, however weirdly reduced to bits and bites, but read the whole damned thing in context for a change. And better yet, read the official books about Mohammed himself, whose life is really the standard for understanding the Koran. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Yep, Leftists can say anything, redefine words to suit themselves, mangle logic beyond recognition, ignore context and of course accuse the opponent of all their own errors.

Oh Ringo, really. Why can't leftists think?Rendering unto Caesar that which is Caesar's sounds to me like Jesus' distancing Himself from the things of government rather than saying anything about how government should be run. Come on, Ringo, this is OBVIOUS for pete's sake. As I said Jesus did not address the state, He did not address government at all. It doesn't matter what constitutes a particular kind of government Jesus did not address it. Jesus addressed us as individuals, period.Oh please. Why do I have the job of answering this kind of nonsense while all the local leftists sit around and pretend it makes sense? Failure of logic, failure of reading in context - does that describe EVERYBODY here?

C'mon yourself. It tells me that I'm one of very few, or even a loner on some issues, in a bastion of leftists, atheists, liberals and liberal Christians. That's not "everybody," it's just everybody, or most everybody, here. And unfortunately the bastion doesn't very often break ranks to support a conservative no matter how deserved. They'll give a ton of cheers if you apologize for a mistake, but their lips are sealed if you give a good argument, or if one of their club says something obviously wrong against me. (And I know from experience that just saying such a thing is going to draw a barrage of denials and insults). And of course you can't see straight either. What on earth does this have to do with His teachings? He addressed NOTHING having to do with government, NOTHING. Except to put HImself apart from it, such as by making it clear that His own government, His kingdom, was "not of this world." Huh? And so what? Yes, but more accurately for their misrepresentations of God's Law, to which they had added a pile of man-originated traditions that put the people in bondage. There are some fundamentalist groups that could be guilty of that charge, but since I know you are including the entirety of Bible-believing Protestant Christianity, you are very wrong. Pharisaism makes works the way to salvation; Protestant Christianity specifically, vociferously, heatedly and nearly endlessly, preaches salvation by faith and not works. I don't think you understand what Pharisaism is. By denying He was political He was political? Wowsy wow. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.