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vimesey Member (Idle past 100 days) Posts: 1398 From: Birmingham, England Joined:
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Is that before or after tax ?
Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?
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Percy Member Posts: 22500 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
NoNukes writes: So we disagree. As long as there are no ethical issues involved, I have no problem with a former politician, or anybody else making tons of money. Obama became rich while still a politician, not a "former politician." Regardless of the path to wealth, politics should not be a means to riches. Money's influences are corrupting. Again, the Senate is all multi-millionaires. Just a rare statistical anomaly? I don't think so. --Percy
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Percy Member Posts: 22500 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9 |
Coyote writes: Trump is reportedly accepting $1 per year. His isolation from his businesses is in question (from which he makes far more than the presidential salary of $400,000/year), and he apparently has no intention of releasing his tax returns. In related news, the Trump hotel in Washington D.C. lease stipulates that no "elected official of the government ... shall be admitted to any share or part of this Lease, or to any benefit that may arise therefrom." (The Trump hotel, emoluments and conflicts) The problem isn't that conflicts like this abound. It's that Trump doesn't care. He'll have to be forcibly separated from entanglements like this (which likely abound) in the courts. As Trump would tweet, "Sad." --Percy
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
The problem isn't that conflicts like this abound. It's that Trump doesn't care. He'll have to be forcibly separated from entanglements like this (which likely abound) in the courts. As Trump would tweet, "Sad." Yeah, if I inhereted 3 million USD or could get a 3 million USD interest free loan from my parents 20 or 30 years ago; I really wouldn't care what happened today. He's never had to work one day in his life. To me it is sad that anyone who got that could say anything like he's 'working' for workers. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given. Edited by Pressie, : No reason given.
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Percy Member Posts: 22500 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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Concerning the blatant lies told by the Trump press secretary about the inauguration crowd sizes the Australian Financial News writes (Truth, Lies and the Trump Administration):
quote: This must be some sort of record for a bad start by a new presidential administration. --Percy PS: About the link, to view it you need to either turn off Javascript or subscribe.
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ramoss Member (Idle past 640 days) Posts: 3228 Joined: |
He is making more money from the business contacts. Business is booming at his trump hotel, since all these foreign dignitaries are suddenly booking there.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Given all this, I think $50,000 a year would be more than enough compensation. Trump is reportedly accepting $1 per year. Chump change and propaganda, but how would you know if he never publishes his tax returns? Only a fool believes what he says, I'll wait for actual behavior. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
quote: So he either doesn't know, doesn't understand or doesn't care about the constitution. Enjoy? Edited by RAZD, : .by our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click) |
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Coyote writes:
Employee: I wish you'd pay me what I'm worth. Trump is reportedly accepting $1 per year.Employer: I'd like to but there are minimum wage laws.
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nwr Member Posts: 6412 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 4.5
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I will say there was a section in the CIA speech he gave that really really has me concerned.
I already knew that he was way out of his depth -- the Dunning Kruger effect gone mad -- so this did not raise any additional concerns.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Coyote writes:
Employee: I wish you'd pay me what I'm worth. Trump is reportedly accepting $1 per year.Employer: I'd like to but there are minimum wage laws. All elected officials should work for minimum wage, but I don't think TrumpleThinSkin is worth 1 cent a year. Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Trump's lying is incessant. In his meeting with Congress yesterday he claimed that 3-5 million illegal votes were cast for Hillary, and he repeated the crowd size claims that his spokesperson had backed away from.
Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
All elected officials should work for minimum wage, but I don't think TrumpleThinSkin is worth 1 cent a year. Nobody should work for minimum wage. Seriously, what kinds of candidates could you attract with such a policy? Wouldn't it be only the rich folk who can afford to take a pay-free sabbatical? I understand the problem with politicians being overpaid, but between your policy of underpaying, and Percy's policy that they shouldn't write books or do speaking tours after being president, just who other than already rich folks could afford to be president? Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith Some of us are worried about just how much damage he will do in his last couple of weeks as president, to make it easier for the NY Times and Washington post to try to destroy Trump's presidency. -- marc9000
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1433 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Seriously, what kinds of candidates could you attract with such a policy? Wouldn't it be only the rich folk who can afford to take a pay-free sabbatical? ... They are the ones in charge of setting the minimum wage, so I am pretty confident that they wouldn't starve. Actually I believe that politicians pay should be approved by the people they represent, on the ballot.
... but between your policy of underpaying, and Percy's policy that they shouldn't write books or do speaking tours after being president, just who other than already rich folks could afford to be president? Perhaps the politicians should be audited annually to show that their earning are honest and not graft or corruption. That is the concern, yes? Enjoyby our ability to understand Rebel☮American☆Zen☯Deist ... to learn ... to think ... to live ... to laugh ... to share. Join the effort to solve medical problems, AIDS/HIV, Cancer and more with Team EvC! (click)
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Percy Member Posts: 22500 From: New Hampshire Joined: Member Rating: 4.9
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NoNukes writes: ...and Percy's policy that they shouldn't write books or do speaking tours after being president,... I never said anything like that. I noted the flaw in our system in the way it allows so many to become rich from a career in politics. The root of the problem is the value of political influence. --Percy
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