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ringo
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Message 436 of 440 (780725)
03-19-2016 12:40 PM
Reply to: Message 434 by Straggler
03-19-2016 12:36 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:

Blah blah blah... logical inconsistency... blah blah blah....


You're missing the rather obvious point that belief has nothing to do with logic. A belief doesn't require logical consistency.
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Message 437 of 440 (780730)
03-19-2016 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 435 by Straggler
03-19-2016 12:38 PM


Re: The Hills Are Christ Is Alive
Straggler writes:

I'm not accusing your belief of being logically inconsistent. I am pointing out that your position in this thread is logically inconsistent.

I believe that is what you are attempting but so far failing miserably.

Can you point to even a single example where I have used the "word salad" description where the person posing the word salad has also said that what they posted was simply a belief and not fact or supported by evidence or was reasonable, logical or rational?

I have no problem with people holding unsupportable, irrational, illogical, unreasonable beliefs unless they also try to claim there is reason, logic, rationality, evidence or factuality to the beliefs beyond the fact that they hold such beliefs.


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 438 of 440 (780793)
03-21-2016 4:22 PM


Back On Topic
This topic is drifting off of its original intent, which was to show that many individuals can have many different concepts of Christianity. We may not agree with each others definitions, but to argue that is not appropriate in this thread.

To reiterate some of jars main points:

jar writes:

It's pretty obvious that many of the posters here are Christians, yet seem to hold vastly different ideas of what Christianity means. Perhaps it would be good if those who called themselves Christian defined their personal concept of Christianity.

This is not meant as much as a debate as a question and answer session.

Straggler take note:

jar writes:

If someone does not accept another's beliefs, fine. But this is not the thread to attack them, rather present your case for your own beliefs. Let the readers make their own decisions.

If you believe that God is impossible to define by virtue of logic, fine. If you call yourself a Christian, also fine. But for those who do not call themselves Christians, might I suggest steering clear of this thread. My alter-ego, Phat, is going to open another topicmore appropriate for arguments.

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Message 439 of 440 (797548)
01-23-2017 5:33 PM


Remix
jar writes:

  • A GOD that chooses who will be saved doesnt make sense. A GOD that creates all and then goes through and picks and chooses who will be saved is just plain cruel and arbitrary and not something to be worshiped.

  • A GOD that wants to be worshiped is just too silly a thought. Maybe some picayune God might worry about what folk thought of Her, like the little girl who worries that her corsage might not be right, too big, or too small, or the guy that worries about his tie not being in style or that people think he looks funny, but GOD cannot be so insecure.

  • The idea of Once saved always saved just made no sense. Thats one of those simplistic ideas that gives folk an out. Anyone who does something really wrong obviously wasnt saved in the first place, or so their argument went. That just felt way to much like a copout and just another example of mental gymnastics, a way of cheating and making excuses.

  • Is it possible that We choose rather than God? Is it possible that some of us may choose unwisely? Is God obligated to intervene?

    Is it possible that God wants us to worship for our benefit rather than Hers? Sort of like an exercise in mindfulness?


    Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
    "A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain "
    ~"If that's not sufficient for you go soak your head."~Faith
    Whoever trusts in his own mind is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom will be delivered.~Proverbs 28:26

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    ringo
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    Message 440 of 440 (797598)
    01-24-2017 11:03 AM
    Reply to: Message 439 by Phat
    01-23-2017 5:33 PM


    Re: Remix
    Phat writes:

    Is it possible that God wants us to worship for our benefit rather than Hers? Sort of like an exercise in mindfulness?


    Then why aren't believers more mindful than unbelievers?
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