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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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Firstly it is obvious that the numbers ARE important to the Trump administration. That is why they lied in the first place.
However it is also quite clear that the administration is displeased that the mainstream press dare to challenge their lies. And are at least considering acting on that displeasure. And - as illustrated here - it is hardly necessary to invent stories that show Trump or his supporters in a bad light
quote: And why should people not be sympathetic to those who who will suffer as a result of this dubious policy ? Especially given the rather selective choice of countries to be affected. And what makes Trump's supporters the sole voice of the American people ?
quote: Of course it is neither. The press you are talking about are largely American. To assert that they have no say - that it is wrong for them to even speak against Trump is clearly a threat to the Constitution. The media don't have to make things up when you are openly condemning yourself.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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How typical of you, to use lies and slander to "discredit" any viewpoint you disagree with.
Thank you for proving my point so eloquently.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Sure Faith, whipping Quakers out of town and burning down Vatholic Churches is the Real America. It is the evil "Marxist-globalist" Founding Fathers who are not...
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
So basically your evidence consists of assertions from a site full of conspiracy theories and lies. And you are not even willing to put this evidence in writing.
And according to my own reading the originator of the claim of massive illegal voting has NOT released his evidence or methodology and will not do so for months So at this point it is just an unsubstantiated claim being passed off as a fact.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Nobody can present a decent case for it. That is your problem. If you found one you could just present it. If the audio recordings had anything decent you could transcribe them. The fact you don't rather suggests that they have nothing of value - just more unsupported allegations.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
Yes Faith we know you are a thoroughgoing hypocrite, please stop reminding us of that fact.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
You are making ridiculous false accusations in an attempt to deny voices contrary to your own the right to speak. How is that in the tradition of the Founding Fathers or the Bill of Rights ?
The venom is in you - not in anyone who points out what you are doing.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
quote: In other words it is very hard to examine it and get the details from it - which must be done if there is to be serious discussion here. So either you are expecting other people to do what you claim you cannot or they are not worth listening to.
quote: And yet you and Trump are promoting lies and opposing the truth.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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I can back up what I said. And if you can't understand it that is your problem.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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But you don't know that there is real evidence out there. You say that you can't even remember the claims accurately enough to write them down, so how can you perform even basic checks ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
No Faith. You claimed to know - not just believe - that the evidence is out there. why am I not permitted to disagree with that when it is obvious that you have no good basis for such a claim ?
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
What nasty personal allegations were in Message 69 ? And before you object to the point that you can't write down this "evidence" bear in mind that is your excuse for providing bare links to audio without providing any details as text.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
I will note that the report does not even make good use of the evidence that is available.
All we can tell is that at one time a woman said she was not an American citizen and at some other time she voted. On such limited evidence we really can't tell if she did anything wrong. (Anyone want to bet that this is one of my "bizarre" assertions that Faith can't understand despite being rather obviously true to anyone who thinks about it?) The fact that the story claims that the excusal form is "proof" that she is an illegal immigrant without any explanation is also worrying - and suggestive of (perhaps extreme) bias.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3 |
No Faith, the people calmly and rationally examining the facts are the sane ones not the screaming lunatic ranting at them
To rational people the fact that Hilary supported a barrier does not make it a good policy. Just because you put tribalism ahead of sense does not mean that sane people will. And the fact that the policy Hilary supported was felt to be too expensive to be worth doing rather suggests that a similar but far more expensive project is going to be even worse. Sane people think that if you are going to put billions of dollars into a project and damage the relationship with a neighbouring country and trading partner you should at least make sure that there will be a good return on it. This does not seem likely to be the case at all.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17827 Joined: Member Rating: 2.3
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I honestly answered it. Message 117. And I won't claim to be the only one either.
You would think that someone who accuses everyone else of lying would take more care to tell the truth.
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