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Theodoric
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Message 92 of 129 (798188)
01-31-2017 9:26 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by Coyote
01-28-2017 3:31 PM


Re: One study
Then again they provided no real evidence did they. As a matter of fact their allegations were looked into and it was determined that their methods were sorely lacking and completely discredited.
Two groups (Election Integrity Maryland and the Virginia Voters Alliance) claimed to have discovered "tens of thousands" of electors on the rolls in both states, and hundreds of double voters. Those lists were apparently compiled by "comparing 3.4 million current voter records in Maryland and 5.5 million in Virginia" by name and date of birth. Elections officials in Fairfax County followed up with a tighter scan, looking for matching SSN digits as well ... and found 17 potential double voters.
“Ada County wrongly strips more than 750 voter registrations” | Election Law Blog

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Message 93 of 129 (798189)
01-31-2017 9:34 PM
Reply to: Message 50 by Tanypteryx
01-29-2017 7:59 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
I am truly amazed by the number of atheists that also supported him. I assume they must be like the self-loathing Log Cabin Republicans.
But there is no reason a Christian should be supporting him.

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Theodoric
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Message 94 of 129 (798190)
01-31-2017 9:37 PM
Reply to: Message 58 by Faith
01-30-2017 12:44 AM


Re: Freedom of the press under threat
I am gone for three months and still all Faith has is ad hominems and attacks. Not surprised.

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Theodoric
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Message 95 of 129 (798191)
01-31-2017 9:39 PM
Reply to: Message 59 by Faith
01-30-2017 12:50 AM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
How about you provide some evidence for these assertions? There must be a source, right?

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Theodoric
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Message 96 of 129 (798193)
01-31-2017 9:44 PM
Reply to: Message 54 by Faith
01-29-2017 11:19 PM


Re: Freedom of the press under threat
Which is really funny because Steve Bannon claimed to be a Leninist that wanted to destroy the government.
You are following someone that espouse marxist-leninism. Too funny.
Steve Bannon Will Lead Trump’s White House | The New Yorker

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Message 100 of 129 (798240)
02-01-2017 10:01 AM
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02-01-2017 12:39 AM


Re: Freedom of the press under threat
According to my understanding there can be no Leninism without Marxism. Leninism is a huge bastardization and corruption of Marxism, but it does rely on it in order to exist.
My formal political science training and education is 30+ years old and probably woefully out of date, so if my impressions are wrong I would gladly be corrected and educated.

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Message 103 of 129 (798320)
02-01-2017 6:16 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by xongsmith
02-01-2017 6:12 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
I was actually wondering about the source that Hillary Clinton and Democrats advocated a wall similar to Trumps, in the past. Also, the assertion that Obama did the same thing on immigration that Trump is doing.
Seems we get all these accusations but no support for them.

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Theodoric
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Message 107 of 129 (798332)
02-01-2017 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 104 by Faith
02-01-2017 6:33 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
Faith why do you always have to lie. You do realize I was able to listen to what she said. She said a barrier. We have built a barrier on a good part of the border. This is not in any way or shape analogous to Trumps $40 billion+ wall. That you think this snippet makes Mrs. Clinton at any time supportive of a Trump wall is plain stupid.
Did you read the NY Times article? Yes they are both similar. Gasoline and water are similar to as in they are both liquid.
Quit lying.
This is what you said originally.
Faith writes:
One of the things I fail at on this subject is keeping track of facts such as that Hillary Clinton among other Democrats supported legislation for building a wall on our southern border some ten years ago, and such as that Obama put out the same executive orders curtailing immigration from the same countries Trump is now curtailing, but Trump is vilified for doing exactly what Obama got no flak for doing.
Are you agreeing now that what you said was not true. You do realize we can read old posts don't you? They don't disappear after we read them.
Edited by Theodoric, : Faiths original comments

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Theodoric
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Message 109 of 129 (798337)
02-01-2017 7:44 PM
Reply to: Message 108 by Faith
02-01-2017 7:40 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
All walls are barriers but all barriers are not walls.
To say Hillary Clinton supported a wall like Trumps is a lie.
ABE
Are you taking back your original comments or do you stand by them even though they have been shown to be false?
Edited by Theodoric, : No reason given.

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Theodoric
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Message 110 of 129 (798339)
02-01-2017 7:48 PM
Reply to: Message 105 by Faith
02-01-2017 6:38 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
There is no evidence of fraud. If he had it he would present it. He is another conman working marks like you.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
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Theodoric
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Message 114 of 129 (798349)
02-01-2017 8:39 PM
Reply to: Message 113 by Modulous
02-01-2017 8:23 PM


Actually we are looking at close to $40 billion. Someone actually ran the maths. I think they underestimated the cost because a 50 ft high wall is going to need to be thicker than 1 foot in order to be stable. Might want to add another 20-25%
Bad Math Props Up Trump’s Border Wall | MIT Technology Review

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Theodoric
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Message 115 of 129 (798350)
02-01-2017 8:42 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by Faith
02-01-2017 7:51 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
Just plain screaming wacko bonkers
You are the one screaming. The rest of us are discussing and pointing out your errors, misrepresentations and the changing of your argument in midstream.
If your going to be upset with anyone you should be upset with yourself. I am not sure why I should refrain from pointing out your lies if you are going to continue to call me names and not debate in a civil manner.

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Theodoric
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Message 119 of 129 (798394)
02-02-2017 9:29 AM
Reply to: Message 118 by RAZD
02-02-2017 8:32 AM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
A barrier of some sort is reasonable on a international border that is rife with illegal crossings. You can debate that fact all you want. What you can not debate honestly is that the barrier Clinton and others supported in the past in the same as Trumps border monstrosity.
To also claim that no one criticized her on supporting that barrier is also a lie. She took a lot of heat for supporting that barrier. I thought the barrier she supported was a bad choice also and made it known, as did a lot of people.
Go with Faith on this if you want, but it is not at all the same thing. Instead of defending him, Trump supporters will instead claim that Clinton or Obama did something like it. That itself shows the dishonesty and cognitive dissonance of a Trump supporter.
This wall is another Trump policy that will destroy our economy, while redistributing more money to the very wealthy.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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Theodoric
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Message 128 of 129 (798473)
02-02-2017 7:24 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by JonF
02-02-2017 6:44 PM


Re: The Trolls are the "mainstream" media
The Democratic Party is by all measures centrist. In most of the world they would be center right.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts
"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.

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