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nwr
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Message 16 of 22 (795749)
12-15-2016 3:32 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by frako
12-15-2016 11:32 AM


just get one of those tesla batteries have them charge up douring the day and use the power douring the night.

Yes, you can do that.

The people that I know who are using solar panels are not doing that. They are relying on the grid for electricity at night time.

Battery manufacture and battery disposal both have environmental issues.


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Message 17 of 22 (795784)
12-15-2016 6:23 PM
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12-15-2016 3:32 PM


The people that I know who are using solar panels are not doing that. They are relying on the grid for electricity at night time.

Yea i know its also possibly a better financial option to sell solar at higher rates to the grid and buy cheaper power from the grid for your own use. If Eco power is subsedised in your region.

Im just saying its possible to be totally off the grid and relativly green now days.

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NoNukes
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Message 18 of 22 (795787)
12-15-2016 6:43 PM
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12-15-2016 2:04 PM


Re: Nuclear Power is Bananas, But In A Good Way
we are about exposing ourselves to the mid-summer Sun for 30 minutes.

I suspect that you've made an over estimate here. But a source of radiation comparable to 30 minutes of sun is something to be concerned about. And of course you've ignored some of the comments I've made about concentration of metals by sea life among other things.


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Message 19 of 22 (795803)
12-16-2016 10:44 AM
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12-15-2016 6:43 PM


Re: Nuclear Power is Bananas, But In A Good Way
NoNukes writes:

I suspect that you've made an over estimate here. But a source of radiation comparable to 30 minutes of sun is something to be concerned about. And of course you've ignored some of the comments I've made about concentration of metals by sea life among other things.

If you think 30 minutes of Sun exposure is something to be worried about, it pretty much discredits your other statements.


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Message 20 of 22 (795805)
12-16-2016 4:16 PM
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12-16-2016 10:44 AM


Re: Nuclear Power is Bananas, But In A Good Way
If you think 30 minutes of Sun exposure is something to be worried about, it pretty much discredits your other statements.

You don't know!
What if you rub yourself down with vegetable oil, on a 120 degree day, on the pavement, surrounded by white buildings at high noon?


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NoNukes
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Message 21 of 22 (795807)
12-16-2016 5:35 PM
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12-16-2016 10:44 AM


Re: Nuclear Power is Bananas, But In A Good Way
If you think 30 minutes of Sun exposure is something to be worried about, it pretty much discredits your other statements.

An extra 30 minutes per day for every person on earth certainly would be appreciable. 30 minutes over a lifetime, not so much.

Which brings to mind another way in which not all radioactive material is created equal. The same number of Beq of material with a long half life delivers a higher a higher dose to the body than does a material which decays away quickly.

Yet another difference is that sunlight is not an internal body problem with radiation that might accumulate in, say, your thyroid, while some components of reactor fission products are that kind of problem. So just comparing disintegrations per second does not cut it.

Look, my point is not that I've discovered a large problem. It is more that the article as written is pretty sloppy and full of handwaving. There is no reason to divide the radiation up into an hourly dose if it is accumulating into the ocean. The issue is the total amount of radioactivity discharged taking into account the half-life of the material.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

History will have to record that the greatest tragedy of this period of social transition was not the strident clamor of the bad people, but the appalling silence of the good people. Martin Luther King

I never considered a difference of opinion in politics, in religion, in philosophy, as cause for withdrawing from a friend. Thomas Jefferson

Seems to me if its clear that certain things that require ancient dates couldn't possibly be true, we are on our way to throwing out all those ancient dates on the basis of the actual evidence. -- Faith


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