Atheism Cannot Rationally Explain Morals.

Dawn Bertot writes:Simply put I would say the Atheist has no rational or logical way to formulate an actual moral or ethic, from a reality standpoint.

Dawn Bertot writes:But to answer your question, my morals come from the God of the Bible, he has infinite wisdom, that's why he's God and can establish morals for creatures

Dawn Bertot writes:Given that all thing in nature are equal as far as life is concerned. That is, all life is sacred and deserves to thrive and survive, just like you.

Trying to get you to see that morality has to come from a source outside the human construct or perspective, otherwise it's just inconsistent subjective nonsense.

Dawn Bertot writes: If Frako thinks Believers are more Evil or right or wrong than an Atheist, WHAT is his reason and standard for believing this, show it to me, set it out logically

Dawn Bertot writes:Well you see RAZD, that's the difference between what you believe answer what I believe. Your morality makes no rational sense, but ours does. No I don't know why God commanded some people to stone people, but then it makes no sense to another human being to ask them to love thier enemy..

Dawn Bertot writes:That's perfectly fine if we are going to use an example from the Bible, but we have to remember the being issuing this command is according to the same source, infinte in knowledge. You are not, I assume

While I don't always understand his ways or actions anymore than a SFH, at least I know he's operating on better info than yourself, correct?

Now before you say this is a quote out of a book, I can see this in reality can't i?

What I mean is at least the theistic position doesn't involve logical contradiction anywhere in it process, especially in its beginning.

Dawn Bertot writes:But Atheists do not claim to be all knowing, the God of the Bible does, that's the difference. If the God of the Bible did not claim this there would be no reason to believe him anymore than you

Dawn Bertot writes:I suppose if I was infinte in wisdom, I could answer that question. But we know under your system you have no right to ask the question, NO WAY TO ANSWER THE QUESTION, therefore no reason to ask the question. See what matter in motion only does for you? It leaves you speechless, powerless. But,it could be the case that your WRONG about being RIGHT, we just don't know, or do we.? Nobody knows under your methodology

Dawn Bertot writes:So we're the Nazis, moral ,immoral, right, wrong, good, bad right or wrong for what they did, according to your positionDawn Bertot

Dawn Bertot writes:Well I was trying to be kind, because it is pretty much a nonsensical question. Since we know absolutely that Atheists are not infinte in wisdom, it would follow, they know very little, especially how to be objective.

Dawn Bertot writes:Because I have an objective morality to judge his actions against. It is provided to me in reality, in rational thought and a divine source.
Your position natural selection and subjectivity are no help

Dredge writes:Hitler and the Khmer Rouge had "evolved brains" too, but they worked stuff out a bit differently to you and I. My point is, there is no way of proving that one man's opinion on morality is more valid or better than any other man's. Some folks think same-sex marriage is immoral, some don't - there is no way to prove that one opinion is right and the other is wrong.

If humans and chimps share 98.8% of their DNA, you would expect them to much closer in appearance, behaviour, intelligence, etc.

If we share 50% (?) of our DNA with bananas, why aren't we a little bit like bananas?

Dredge writes:Evolution is as dumb as a cake; it has no intelligence; it is a blind, mindless, unconscious, aimless series of random accidents - yet it supposedly produced creatures who have incredible minds capable of love, imagination, ethics, art, planning, designing, constructing, dreaming, problem solving, inventing, etc, etc.

Dredge writes:Naturalistic evoultion says that all life is the result of a series of mindless accidents. So the series of mindless accidents that resulted in human life has no more significance or meaning than a rock falling down a cliff. Do mindless accidents have meaning?

Dredge writes:If atheists are correct and there is no God or gods, then religious morality is man-made - therefore they are as just as valid as any other expression of human morality.